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re: WR Deion Smith out for the game
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:23 am to Mrtommorrow1987
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:23 am to Mrtommorrow1987
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fricking L. Even the freshmen are quitting
We can all hear the excitement in your voice !
Congrats
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Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:24 am to Byrdybyrd05
Has he even played this year due to injury?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:26 am to OldManRiver
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feels like one of two things is true
(*whynotboth* GIF goes here)
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:26 am to 72Tigah
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agree big league....They need to wreck that S&C dept and quit AVOIDING THE OBVIOUS. WE ARE THE LEAST PHYSICAL TEAM IN THE SEC. LACK OF CONDITIONING LEADS TO INJURIES........AND LOSSES!!!!!
It’s just my opinion but I think the team is fine in terms of running wind sprints and lifting weights. Where we are truly lacking is actual football conditioning: blocking, shedding blocks, cutting, start/stop accelerations.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:57 am to ShreveportTiger1987
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I've talked to a player all year. It's not O. According to him the team still really likes O, do not like the coordinators. Nor Max a lot either.
If this is the case, don’t we think this is a huge issue? There is a rumor the past 2 years that they love O, but hate the coordinators. Ummm is it because the coordinators hold them accountable, then O undermines the coordinators and let’s them get away with whatever?
Just spitballing here, but are the players lacking the self awareness to see that what O is doing isn’t working?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:15 am to JustLivinTheDream
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Holy shite, I want to believe this so badly. If true, and LSU actually starts Derrick Davis and Sage Ryan, I will straight up believe a defensive turnaround is possible. These two are a couple of stud DB's.
This is Spring Game level optimism.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:25 am to ShreveportTiger1987
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I've talked to a player all year. It's not O. According to him the team still really likes O, do not like the coordinators. Nor Max a lot either.
Unless Max is a bad locker room guy, there’s no reason to dislike him. He’s been put in a really bad spot by the coaches. Poor protection, no run game, injury to his best weapon. I’ve heard the players like Jones, so you must be talking about Peetz. If they have a problem with Peetz, they should have a problem with O. All of their problems are directly tied to O. Not sure why they would give him a pass.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:22 am to The Pirate King
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not one player on our team has opted out.
How do you know that ? All you know is they haven't called it opting out.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:36 am to NCTiger2
Agree, this year has been a GREAT opportunity for freshman WRs to play alot, very rare.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:36 am to Geauxtigersgeaux12
WTF is going on in the WR room?
Statfox NCAA injury report...
[WR] 09/23/2021 - Chris Hilton Jr. is out indefinitely ( Undisclosed )
[CB] 10/06/2021 - Derek Stingley Jr. is out indefinitely ( Foot )
[LB] 10/07/2021 - Jared Small is out for season ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/09/2021 - Trey Palmer is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/09/2021 - Koy Moore is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[T] 10/09/2021 - Cameron Wire is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[RB] 10/14/2021 - Armoni Goodwin is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/14/2021 - Deion Smith is downgraded to doubtful Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/14/2021 - Devonta Lee is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[CB] 10/13/2021 - Eli Ricks is out for season ( Undisclosed )
[DL] 10/14/2021 - Ali Gaye is out for season ( Undisclosed )
[OL] 10/09/2021 - Austin Deculus is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Shoulder )
[RB] 10/09/2021 - Tre Bradford is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Eligibility )
[DB] 10/11/2021 - Major Burns is downgraded to OUT Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[DT] 10/11/2021 - Joseph Evans is downgraded to OUT Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
(!)[WR] 10/11/2021 - Kayshon Boutte is out for season ( Ankle )
[LB] 09/20/2021 - Andre Anthony is out for season ( Knee )
[RB] 09/13/2021 - John Emery Jr. is out for season ( Academics )
[DE] 08/14/2021 - Glen Logan is out indefinitely ( Foot )
(!)[QB] 08/02/2021 - Myles Brennan is out indefinitely ( Arm )
Before you all go complete apeshit UGA has 16 out and Clemson has 18 out on their lists...
Statfox NCAA injury report...
[WR] 09/23/2021 - Chris Hilton Jr. is out indefinitely ( Undisclosed )
[CB] 10/06/2021 - Derek Stingley Jr. is out indefinitely ( Foot )
[LB] 10/07/2021 - Jared Small is out for season ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/09/2021 - Trey Palmer is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/09/2021 - Koy Moore is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[T] 10/09/2021 - Cameron Wire is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[RB] 10/14/2021 - Armoni Goodwin is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/14/2021 - Deion Smith is downgraded to doubtful Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[WR] 10/14/2021 - Devonta Lee is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[CB] 10/13/2021 - Eli Ricks is out for season ( Undisclosed )
[DL] 10/14/2021 - Ali Gaye is out for season ( Undisclosed )
[OL] 10/09/2021 - Austin Deculus is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Shoulder )
[RB] 10/09/2021 - Tre Bradford is "?" Saturday vs Florida ( Eligibility )
[DB] 10/11/2021 - Major Burns is downgraded to OUT Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
[DT] 10/11/2021 - Joseph Evans is downgraded to OUT Saturday vs Florida ( Undisclosed )
(!)[WR] 10/11/2021 - Kayshon Boutte is out for season ( Ankle )
[LB] 09/20/2021 - Andre Anthony is out for season ( Knee )
[RB] 09/13/2021 - John Emery Jr. is out for season ( Academics )
[DE] 08/14/2021 - Glen Logan is out indefinitely ( Foot )
(!)[QB] 08/02/2021 - Myles Brennan is out indefinitely ( Arm )
Before you all go complete apeshit UGA has 16 out and Clemson has 18 out on their lists...
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:42 am to The Pirate King
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They need to start banning people saying this.
Ok, I'm all for defending our players in our shite storm, but this is too many injuries to be a coincidence.....we're now up to 2 starting WR, basically the whole starting D line, both starting corners, starting safeties.....am I missing anyone. I think at this point we literally have more starters injured than playing. It ain't all players soft opting out, but it ain't all injuries either.....I'm sorry but there's just no way
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:50 am to JustLivinTheDream
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I completely understand why the team likes Orgeron, but the problem is, coaches don't want anything to do with him OR he simply doesn't know how to evaluate good ones. If they don't like the coordinators, well, that's a reflection of Orgeron's leadership as head coach. You can't like Orgeron and dislike the coordinators he chooses, they are simply a reflection of him. The coordinators either work out or they don't and everyone is gone. Orgeron is not getting another year to play with finding new coordinators.
I took what he said as a refutation that the players have quit on O, and all these injuries are fake (which is ridiculous). Not that they are taking some sort of stand on him deserving to come back next year.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:57 am to GeauxLSU4
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Unless Max is a bad locker room guy, there’s no reason to dislike him. He’s been put in a really bad spot by the coaches. Poor protection, no run game, injury to his best weapon. I’ve heard the players like Jones, so you must be talking about Peetz. If they have a problem with Peetz, they should have a problem with O. All of their problems are directly tied to O. Not sure why they would give him a pass.
You’re looking at this from an outside, macro level. These guys don’t think like that. They are thinking about their personal relationships, the micro level. I have no idea if what this dude is saying is legit, but if they really don’t like Max, I’m sure it’s because of his personality more than his play.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 9:06 am to Byrdybyrd05
I wholeheartedly believe that a higher power was listening when we showed up in droves saying things like "I'd sacrifice the next ___ seasons if we can pull off the best season ever" We all said something similar whether on TD or in casual convo with friends and family.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:13 am to The Pirate King
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They need to start banning people saying this.
Players and recruits read this board and not one player on our team has opted out.
Yes, because no other fan base has a message board or says negative things.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:16 am to The Pirate King
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They need to start banning people saying this.
Players and recruits read this board and not one player on our team has opted out.
There’s absolutely no way every one of these injuries is legit.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:32 am to Hot Carl
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You’re looking at this from an outside, macro level. These guys don’t think like that. They are thinking about their personal relationships, the micro level. I have no idea if what this dude is saying is legit, but if they really don’t like Max, I’m sure it’s because of his personality more than his play.
well then said player is stupid. Played with plenty of guys in HS i couldnt stand off the field but i sure as hell wanted them next to me on the field because they gave us the best chance to win.
players are dumb.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:37 am to Byrdybyrd05
This isn't a BS injury. He was rolled up on by TDP last week. Our receivers weren't used ti one of our RB's getting past the LOS
Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:12 pm to victoire sécurisé
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This is Spring Game level optimism.
Who gives a shite when LSU has had the worst safety play the last two years they could possibly have. Now, you've got a chance with a 5* Sage Ryan and a high 4* Derrick Davis to get on the field. These two are true freshmen but it's not as if anyone else is doing anything back there. Ward is just too small against physical RB's to come up and make tackles, Davis might be able to come up and hit somebody. Ryan is more of a corner/nickel player but great athlete and not afraid of contact, good against the pass and fast to the ball.
For all we know, Davis isn't even going to play over Toles/Ward/Lewis, but he's the most talented pure safety LSU has signed in a long time when you consider Stevens was a S/LB tweener and Kelvin Joseph was a cover corner. Davis is a thumper at safety, hopefully he's comfortable enough to get on the field because he could end up being a Delpit type impact player at safety.
It's easy to forget about Derrick Davis because he hasn't played much but he was LSU's third highest rated recruit in the cycle, ahead of other players like Deion Smith, Hilton, Thomas Jr., Dellinger, Goodwin, etc. Only Maason Smith and Sage Ryan were rated higher.
"Safety build with body type to carry 210 pounds. Physical, tough and plays nasty. Has man-cover ability. Mentality to play in box and runs well enough to play free safety. Nickel ability. Capable blitzer. Instinctual player who tracks ball well. Good change of direction. Strong on jams and re-routes well. Shows good acceleration and closing speed. Strong tackler. Must continue to add upper body strength. Refining back pedal and adding hip flexibility important. Ability to play for elite program as true freshman. Second day NFL draft pick potential."
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