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re: Would you consider Jay Johnson’s first regular season successful?
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:55 am to Datsmoneydude
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:55 am to Datsmoneydude
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Exactly. This dudes gonna be here
10-15 years hopefully. I believe in him.
The guy is pretty young and doesn't seem like the type to walk away. He will be here until he gets fired or can't walk to the mound.
Here's to hoping for 25-30 years of good baseball!
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 10:56 am
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 11:11 am to TigerMonkey7
I RIDE WITH JJ
Posted on 5/31/22 at 12:07 pm to Melvin
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This Johnson experiment certainly had its ups and downs.
Best description.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 12:34 pm to TigerMonkey7
I think it was a very good regular season. Our two biggest weaknesses were exposed by teams with good hitting and complimentary good pitching. Pitching kept our run totals down and putting the ball in play forced us to make plays to get outs (that didn’t happen often enough) and pitching mistakes were blasted. We need better pitching and better fielding. But all things accounted for the coaching was VERY good.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 12:45 pm to beauchristopher
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LSU was predicted to finish 4th in the West via SEC coaches. They finished 3rd.
And all 4 were in the top 10 nationally.
Two of those 4 bombed
LSU was approached cautiously due to coaching change but the team on paper was better than rinal record . Regardless, preseason rankings do not mean anything.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:04 pm to TigerMonkey7
A very successful first year!
He took a team with subpar elite level pitching and bad fielding middle infielders(both should be outfielders) and made a regional and a 4th place finish in the toughest division of the toughest conference in the country!
He took a team with subpar elite level pitching and bad fielding middle infielders(both should be outfielders) and made a regional and a 4th place finish in the toughest division of the toughest conference in the country!
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:27 pm to TigerinKorea
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He did a terrific job, considering he was forced to navigate through some of the worst starting pitching LSU has seen in years
Borderline worst LSU pitching in the last 30 years. We had no true weekend starter. Not one. Hilliard is a closer on any other team in the SEC this year, and on any other LSU team in the last 30 years. We have 12 closers and had to pick 3 to start on weekends. And we were borderline a national seed despite that. That's an A+ coaching job to me.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:30 pm to emanresu
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Hilliard is a closer on any other team in the SEC this year,
A closer?
. He's a solid bullpen option or Sunday guy but not a closer Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:32 pm to Lester Earl
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Regardless, preseason rankings do not mean anything.
I agree, but I was interested in what the other coaches thought of LSU.
Not the same argument, but I hate to imagine where LSU would be if they had kept Paul around this season. I think Johnson managed the bullpen very well. I believe LSU is trending in the right direction.
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Borderline worst LSU pitching in the last 30 years. We had no true weekend starter. Not one. Hilliard is a closer on any other team in the SEC this year, and on any other LSU team in the last 30 years. We have 12 closers and had to pick 3 to start on weekends. And we were borderline a national seed despite that. That's an A+ coaching job to me.
I think it's miraculous myself. It's nice to see a coach adapt well to what he has. Now imagine LSU baseball once he addresses some of these holes. I'm excited.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:32 pm to TigerMonkey7
Can you let the man finish a season and allow the draft to run to finalize the recruiting class before judging him on how he did?
Slow your roll.
Slow your roll.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:50 pm to beauchristopher
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think it's miraculous myself. It's nice to see a coach adapt well to what he has. Now imagine LSU baseball once he addresses some of these holes. I'm excited.
It wasn’t so much miraculous as it was just unconventional. He built from the back to the front, which is more of a pro model. And it worked. The pitching staff was pieces together beautifully with what they had.
They finished 4th in the league in ERA & had a terrible defense that played behind them. “Worst pitching since the 90’s” is just clown shite. Sure you’d love to have good starters but when he have 5 guys at the back end you trust , the games become a lot shorter for the starters
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:54 pm to Lester Earl
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He built from the back to the front, which is more of a pro model. And it worked.
Good point.
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5 guys at the back end you trust , the games become a lot shorter for the starters
This style definitely seems manageable for weekend series. I sort of like it, but still prefer a traditional Fri/Sat starter.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:56 pm to TigerMonkey7
TBD
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:18 pm to TigerMonkey7
If we advance to a Super, it's a success.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:18 pm to TigerMonkey7
On the other hand, lets think what we would say if we had not made the Regional, with this new staff. If we would have had the full lineup all year we would have been over 40 wins easily. Injuries. With not a good starting rotation, having 38 wins and a winning record in the SEC. I have to say he did a great job, and give the players credit also for their adjustments to a new coaching staff. Came out with a respectable season. Next year WE HOST. GEAUX TIGERS !
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:24 pm to TigerMonkey7
Ask me in two weeks.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:24 pm to Magician2
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We were preseason ranked #8 and had 3 consensus AA in the line up.
Pre Season Rankings is what you believe in? Then why play games?
The Pre Season rankings didn’t factor in the #1 & #2 players with the most errors in the SEC for the year would be playing SS & 2B for LSU.
They also didn’t factor in just how poor LSU’s Pitching Depth was.
Then they certainly did not factor in the injuries. Pre Season Rankings are far from absolutes.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:35 pm to Madking
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I don’t get where this “0 starting pitchers” comes from when he had a guy who was a successful Friday starter as a freshman
He was never a "Friday starter." He started games on Fridays when we either had injuries or a trash staff
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who hadn’t lost a game in 2 years, who was 16-9 with 26 career starts left to him.
Pitching wins are a not a very telling statistic, at all. I love Hilliard, but he's been a 4 ERA guy for 5 years here.
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You can argue about other starters if you want but saying he had “none” is incorrect.
Okay. He had, by LSU standards, a mediocre Sunday starter as his ace.
We STILL managed to have a top 4 overall pitching staff in the conference. The difference is, in order to win weekend series', Jay had to be almost perfect with his bullpen decisions. He was very, very good with them. It's almost impossible to have the success we've had this year relying on the bullpen as much as we did.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:36 pm to TigerMonkey7
with pitching being the most important position determining wins and losses, I would say yes. He has had a successful season. He definitely needs to recruit quality pitchers in order to win going forward.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:46 pm to Springlake Tiger
I heard something today that said if we get 7 of the 14 signees ,in this recruiting class , on campus, then we will still have the number one class in the country
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