re: Women's B Ball Coach - K Mulky?

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None of us on this board KNOWS who is turning a profit.

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I took Sports Marketing class in 2008, actual test questions were on which sports made a profit. Football and Men's Basketball (inconsistently, depending on success) are the only sports that generate a profit. Baseball is regularly close to breakeven, believe it or not. All other sports feed off of those two. FACT. I got an 'A' in the class and Alleva was a guest speaker who confirmed these stats.

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You lose a lot of credibility when you try to ignore the distinction between not paying a 7 figure salary for a women's basketball coach and "eliminating the program." NOBODY is talking about eliminating womens basketball except YOU. Why? What possible motivation could you have for raising the issue of eliminating programs if you have a valid argument to make on the actual topic here? Bottom line is we do know what programs turn a profit. Football obviously does, baseball usually does, and mens basketball usually does. There has never been any evidence to suggest that LSU Womens Basketball has turned a profit, despite several years of outstanding success.

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Well, actually it is you who has lost credibility. You are ASSUMING that basketball and baseball turn a profit. Come up with the hard numbers. Otherwise you're gauging profit on how many butts you see in the seats.

But, since it appears that we MUST have a women's basketball program, why would you want it to be mediocre. In 2009 LSU sports generated $110 million. Does it really bring so much psychological discomfort to some of you that LSU migth actually use less than 5% of that to hire a women's basketball coach.............................................really?

LSU Sports Revenues for 2009

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And why should it matter if the entire department is turning a profit

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Do you know shite about running a business ?

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This is why Alleva's going to get a coach that makes at least $500K.

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and it still will be a bad investment

hate to be harsh, but it's true

i'd rather take $250K of that and pay the football assistant coaches

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and it still will be a bad investment hate to be harsh, but it's true

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Oh, I don't have a problem with that. In fact, if you're looking at it profit-wise, you're right. I wouldn't even argue that. But, like I said, the AD is not looking at it like that. His job is to make sure LSU athletics are the best they can be while the DEPARTMENT doesn't lose money while doing so.

Paying a coach $500K won't hurt the profitability of his department. If it did, I guarantee he wouldn't do it. But, he will. Just watch..................................................................

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From the 1990s until her 2006 divorce she was known as Kim Mulkey-Robertson. She spent her childhood in Tickfaw, Louisiana. She has two children: Kramer and Makenzie, a freshman on the 2010-11 team.

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I think my mom worked with Kim Mulkey's mom at the AT&T in Hammond.

*sigh*

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You are ASSUMING that basketball and baseball turn a profit. Come up with the hard numbers. Otherwise you're gauging profit on how many butts you see in the seats.

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No, I'm not. Whether I bother to do your research for you or not, the reality is that I do have some knowledge regarding what programs turn (or have turned) a profit at LSU, so I'm not assuming anything. If you want to call me a liar -- even though I'M ON YOUR SIDE -- then YOU should come with some numbers -- any numbers whatsoever -- to support such an assertion if you choose to make it.

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why would you want it to be mediocre.

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Why would you intentionally ignore the entire part of my post that directly supported your position. I WANT to spend money on our next womens basketball coach. Why are you lying and claiming I'm against it? What is you problem? Why do you have to insult and slander people? Are you trying to piss people off? Are you just insistent on lies and ad hominem attacks? Do you want to be reported for lying about other posters in this thread? Why can't you carry on a rational conversation without making false accusations and lying about the position of people WHO ARE ON YOUR SIDE?!?!

I WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THE WOMENS BASKETBALL COACH!

Did it get through that time?

jeez.

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so keep paying top dollar into a program that doesnt draw fans and doesnt play for, much less win, national titles

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So now the standard is national titles? Wow! NOBODY is guaranteed to do that no matter how much you pay. What I'd like is someone who can win the SEC and consistently CONTEND for NCAA championships..........and hopefully win one every once in a while. During their best years, LSU's women drew around 7000 fans per game. That's good enough when you compare to other top ten programs.

So, yes, I think you should pay top dollar. And thankfully, Alleva thinks so too.

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The three sports that make a profit at the University are football, baseball and men's basketball, with football making up the majority of the profit.

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LINK

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Thanks for the link LSU Dad. Here's Alleva's direct quote once more............

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The three sports that make a profit at the University are football, baseball and men's basketball, with football making up the majority of the profit. "Football is the sport that supports all the other sports," Alleva said.

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Hmmmmm. Well. You know.............................


The article also says............

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The Athletic Department gives 3 percent — an average of about $3.5 million over the past few years — of its budget to the University for administrative overhead in a normal year. The department will be asked to give back 5 percent — about $6 million — of its budget to the University in the fiscal year from July 2009 to July 2010, Vincent said.

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So, if we were to pay a coach market value, this would be somewere in the neighborhood of 0.5% of the athletic budget.

How dare they spend that kind of money on a sport that doesn't turn a profit! I'm gonna call the AD's office right now! Who do they think they are?!!(sarcasm).