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re: Wilson Hit Not Illegal

Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:18 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131538 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Was a clean hit.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38516 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:19 am to
Joshua Perkins is drunk. He's not making any sense.

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So here’s the play by Mack Wilson that fans are saying should also have been targeting. He does lead with his helmet and his arms wrap around th qb, but it’s clear his helmet hits the qb first. Here’s why it’s not targeting


He's making the case for targeting.

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Mack’s helmet hits the qb under the chin and in the shoulder pads, which is perfect form for that hit. Mack lifts his head up so he isn’t striking the qb with the crown of his helmet (which by rule would be targeting). Very hard hit but not targeting.


What on God's green earth is he watching? Dude does not lift his head.

Also, I've learned targeting isn't just helmet to helmet or head/neck area. It's just hitting with the crown of the helmet which Wilson does (see LINK)

Bama gets away with it, LSU doesn't...it just sucks.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6047 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to
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He's making the case for targeting.

quote: Mack’s helmet hits the qb under the chin and in the shoulder pads,


Exactly. The part of the body under the chin must be the neck --- unless you are in Alabama.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to
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bigosports

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88 posts

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Defending a blatant target by an Alabama player on in an LSU forum


Seems legit.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to
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Your collar bone is not in your neck.


It's in the neck area...which is what the rule states.



I can't believe we're even having this discussion...

BTW...this very thing, confirmation bias that we are all working under due to our passion for our respective programs is EXACTLY WHY there should be complete transparency inside the SEC office and why there should be every attempt made to ensure there are no appearances of impropriety. Instead...we all know the potential issues and anyone that suggests there could be an issue is told to suck it up and get over it...
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to
My question is if devin left his feet and laughed himself how is he still standing at the end of the play.
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
2564 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:23 am to
Yes but he lead with the crown of the helmet
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131538 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:24 am to
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Bama gets away with it, LSU doesn't...
Agree.
But what I think you meant was . . . . .

Bama gets away with targeting.
LSU is flagged for targeting on a clean play.

That sucks!
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3313 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:27 am to
You telling me Wilson’s helmet is not in the “neck” area while making forcible contact on a defenseless player (a player throwing the football is considered defenseless fyi) STFU, if you going to call the one on white targeting then no way in hell this isn’t.

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This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:37 am
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:31 am to


The collar bone is the base that provides support for many of the muscles of the head and neck.
Anyone that says the collar bone is not part of the head and neck is simply ignorant.
No collar bone and your head flops around.

End of discussion.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:33 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17726 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:36 am to
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No one is saying that hit is illegal according to the letter of the rule. EVERYONE is saying that if, according to the rule, DW's hit was illegal, then the Wilson hit was also illegal.

Neither was an illegal hit. It's just being used as an example to cast light on the fact that SEC officials do not consistently enforce the rules.
I don't think either was illegal.

In the case of Wilson he "forceably struck" the chest, QB's head rolled forward, making contact with Wilson's helmet. Helmet, crown included, was incidental.

In Devin's case I don't thing the helmets even fricking touched. The forceable contact was with his hands, in the chest. The only contact to head or neck area was Devin's forearm under the facemask. Also incidental. Fitzpussy's head never even rocked, as series of stills on this board shows that.
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was it closer to targeting than White hit?
Which one was called Targeting and which one wasn't?
Wilson's was definitely closer. The crown and his facemask did make contact (which is what I'm calling incidental and non-forceable).

The Gump hit on UT WR Byrd was most definitely targeting, crown to crown on defended (as opposed to defenseless) player. Period. Refs didn't even flinch.

USCw Gustin was launching, crown, to head, defenseless, late. It fit every rule in the book. Not called.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38516 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:41 am to
quote:

No one is saying that hit is illegal according to the letter of the rule. EVERYONE is saying that if, according to the rule, DW's hit was illegal, then the Wilson hit was also illegal.


Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21553 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:47 am to
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Your collar bone is not in your neck.


But is it in the neck area?

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Was a clean hit. Vicious, but clean.


Nope. Lead with his head with forcible contact to the neck area of a defenseless player.

That’s targeting.
Posted by Capo
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2013
932 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:53 am to
He hit him with the crown of the helmet. He led with the helmet ... case closed.

To add to it, he does contact the neck (lower part of the face mask). Targeting either way.

Devin White was legal. Period. End of story.
Posted by foghat
Dallas
Member since Sep 2006
962 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:56 am to
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All you people saying Wilson hit UT QB in the neck are blind. My goodness. Pretty clear it's the chest and a legal hit


You are an idiot. Stop the video. The crown of his helmet is right in the QB's neck and touching the helmet. If White's hit is targeting, this is most certainly targeting.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6047 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:56 am to
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The crown and his facemask did make contact


If he leads with the crown it is targeting regardless of where on the body he makes contact. Read the rule.

He also leads with the helmet and makes contact well above the numbers. This is the neck area. This also makes it targeting. Read the rule.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13778 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:57 am to
Ban this troll
Posted by eetiger
Baton Rouge via Eunice
Member since Mar 2006
1822 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:59 am to
Don't you get what he's trying to say here?

Bama plays by all the rules and plays clean and LSU once again is attempting to break the rules and plays dirty!

Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16372 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:02 am to
Face masks touched. Feet were coming off the ground, and he was thinking "hurt the QB ". The thought should be a penalty the same with them the same as it is with everyone else.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 10:03 am
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6840 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:05 am to
I’m not sure where your neck is...but mine is just under my head, just like I’m sure Guarantano’s is. Right there where the crown of Wilson’s helmet is.

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