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re: Wilson Hit Not Illegal
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:18 am to LSUInTheBR
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:18 am to LSUInTheBR
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Was a clean hit.

Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:19 am to bigosports
Joshua Perkins is drunk. He's not making any sense.
He's making the case for targeting.
What on God's green earth is he watching? Dude does not lift his head.
Also, I've learned targeting isn't just helmet to helmet or head/neck area. It's just hitting with the crown of the helmet which Wilson does (see LINK)
Bama gets away with it, LSU doesn't...it just sucks.
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So here’s the play by Mack Wilson that fans are saying should also have been targeting. He does lead with his helmet and his arms wrap around th qb, but it’s clear his helmet hits the qb first. Here’s why it’s not targeting
He's making the case for targeting.
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Mack’s helmet hits the qb under the chin and in the shoulder pads, which is perfect form for that hit. Mack lifts his head up so he isn’t striking the qb with the crown of his helmet (which by rule would be targeting). Very hard hit but not targeting.
What on God's green earth is he watching? Dude does not lift his head.
Also, I've learned targeting isn't just helmet to helmet or head/neck area. It's just hitting with the crown of the helmet which Wilson does (see LINK)
Bama gets away with it, LSU doesn't...it just sucks.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to bwallcubfan
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He's making the case for targeting.
quote: Mack’s helmet hits the qb under the chin and in the shoulder pads,
Exactly. The part of the body under the chin must be the neck --- unless you are in Alabama.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to bigosports
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bigosports
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88 posts
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Defending a blatant target by an Alabama player on in an LSU forum
Seems legit.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to LSUInTheBR
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Your collar bone is not in your neck.
It's in the neck area...which is what the rule states.

I can't believe we're even having this discussion...

BTW...this very thing, confirmation bias that we are all working under due to our passion for our respective programs is EXACTLY WHY there should be complete transparency inside the SEC office and why there should be every attempt made to ensure there are no appearances of impropriety. Instead...we all know the potential issues and anyone that suggests there could be an issue is told to suck it up and get over it...
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:22 am to bigosports
My question is if devin left his feet and laughed himself how is he still standing at the end of the play.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:23 am to bigosports
Yes but he lead with the crown of the helmet
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:24 am to bwallcubfan
quote:Agree.
Bama gets away with it, LSU doesn't...
But what I think you meant was . . . . .
Bama gets away with targeting.
LSU is flagged for targeting on a clean play.
That sucks!
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:27 am to bigosports
You telling me Wilson’s helmet is not in the “neck” area while making forcible contact on a defenseless player (a player throwing the football is considered defenseless fyi) STFU, if you going to call the one on white targeting then no way in hell this isn’t.
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This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:37 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:31 am to GeauxTigerTM

The collar bone is the base that provides support for many of the muscles of the head and neck.
Anyone that says the collar bone is not part of the head and neck is simply ignorant.
No collar bone and your head flops around.
End of discussion.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:36 am to Guava Jelly
quote:I don't think either was illegal.
No one is saying that hit is illegal according to the letter of the rule. EVERYONE is saying that if, according to the rule, DW's hit was illegal, then the Wilson hit was also illegal.
Neither was an illegal hit. It's just being used as an example to cast light on the fact that SEC officials do not consistently enforce the rules.
In the case of Wilson he "forceably struck" the chest, QB's head rolled forward, making contact with Wilson's helmet. Helmet, crown included, was incidental.
In Devin's case I don't thing the helmets even fricking touched. The forceable contact was with his hands, in the chest. The only contact to head or neck area was Devin's forearm under the facemask. Also incidental. Fitzpussy's head never even rocked, as series of stills on this board shows that.
quote:Wilson's was definitely closer. The crown and his facemask did make contact (which is what I'm calling incidental and non-forceable).
was it closer to targeting than White hit?
Which one was called Targeting and which one wasn't?
The Gump hit on UT WR Byrd was most definitely targeting, crown to crown on defended (as opposed to defenseless) player. Period. Refs didn't even flinch.
USCw Gustin was launching, crown, to head, defenseless, late. It fit every rule in the book. Not called.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:41 am to Guava Jelly
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No one is saying that hit is illegal according to the letter of the rule. EVERYONE is saying that if, according to the rule, DW's hit was illegal, then the Wilson hit was also illegal.

Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:47 am to LSUInTheBR
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Your collar bone is not in your neck.
But is it in the neck area?
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Was a clean hit. Vicious, but clean.
Nope. Lead with his head with forcible contact to the neck area of a defenseless player.
That’s targeting.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:53 am to OceanMan
He hit him with the crown of the helmet. He led with the helmet ... case closed.
To add to it, he does contact the neck (lower part of the face mask). Targeting either way.
Devin White was legal. Period. End of story.
To add to it, he does contact the neck (lower part of the face mask). Targeting either way.
Devin White was legal. Period. End of story.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:56 am to bigosports
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All you people saying Wilson hit UT QB in the neck are blind. My goodness. Pretty clear it's the chest and a legal hit
You are an idiot. Stop the video. The crown of his helmet is right in the QB's neck and touching the helmet. If White's hit is targeting, this is most certainly targeting.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:56 am to I20goon
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The crown and his facemask did make contact
If he leads with the crown it is targeting regardless of where on the body he makes contact. Read the rule.
He also leads with the helmet and makes contact well above the numbers. This is the neck area. This also makes it targeting. Read the rule.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:59 am to Statestreet
Don't you get what he's trying to say here?
Bama plays by all the rules and plays clean and LSU once again is attempting to break the rules and plays dirty!
Bama plays by all the rules and plays clean and LSU once again is attempting to break the rules and plays dirty!

Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:02 am to bigosports
Face masks touched. Feet were coming off the ground, and he was thinking "hurt the QB ". The thought should be a penalty the same with them the same as it is with everyone else.



This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 10:03 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:05 am to bigosports
I’m not sure where your neck is...but mine is just under my head, just like I’m sure Guarantano’s is. Right there where the crown of Wilson’s helmet is.


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