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re: Wilson Alexander has a good post mortem of the BK era

Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5325 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:32 am to
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I do remember one time when a supervisor tried to tell me what to do, I went right to the director and asked him if he wanted me off the project. When he said no, and asked why, I said because [name] is trying to tell me what to do. The director laughed and told me not to worry and proceeded to call [name] into his office. He never tried to give me any direction after that.


This type of insubordination would get you fired at the overwhelming majority of companies in this country.
Posted by kobsa
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2021
267 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:33 am to
When Kelly was hired, I remember talking to two good friends of mine who are Notre Dame alumni and this behavior pattern, especially in recruiting was one of the reasons they were not upset to see him go. I’m curious whether SW found any of this out during the hiring process but dismissed it. All easily knowable info w/ a bit of research and interviews of former players, staff members of his.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87106 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:34 am to
Oh damn that’s horrible. fricking cancer
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6187 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:37 am to
From 30 years experience as a head coach (albeit with only 4 assistants) and as a football assistant in 6A school, both I and all of the head football coaches I assisted, were always very much in the loop with the game plan and all other aspects of our programs.

While not dealing with recruiting like college coaches, we also didnt have the extra staff to deal with classroom/grade issues, eligibility paperwork, travel details, etc...

I also met with my assistants daily before and after practice to discuss practice plans and upcoming game strategies, and address any issues that may come up. The thing that scared me the most was to not be prepared or have an assistant do something that I didnt know or approve of that I knew that I would have to answer for to the administration.

For example, I was asked to drive our varsity volleyball team to the Regional tournament so the coaches could relax on the drive and focus on the match. I get to the bus barn and I find out there was no bus request made. Instead of calling the head coach or AD, since I drove a morning route, the director was more than willing to accommodate me getting the first bus available instead of going by policy and denying a bus. It wasn't a brand new bus, but a good running bus to go 60 miles and nobody knew the difference. Another time, the head BB coach forgot to add referees because we were using 2 gyms... That's why I always followed up on stuff like that and made my assistants follow up with me on stuff that I assigned to myself...

While being a public school, I also knew who my junior high future players were and was involved in the local little league in helping my future teams and I did my best to remember who all those players were when they got to high school.
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 11:38 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17099 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:37 am to
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It's about professionalism, knowing your job and keeping feelings out of it.

Huh? It’s not like those players quit doing their job because BK didn’t know their name.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3779 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:39 am to
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This type of insubordination would get you fired at the overwhelming majority of companies in this country.

It depends on what you bring to the company. If you make a deal with the owner of the company, and then one of his managers interferes with it, the owner should be made aware that there are now extenuating circumstances to what I originally agreed to do for the company. Generally my supervisors understood that my work helped make them look better, and they let me do my job. A good manager is usually relieved when they get an employee that they don't have to micromanage, and is self-motivated.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3779 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:43 am to
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What does this have to do with remembering recruits names?

I already said what.

If you pay me a million dollars per year, I don't give a frick what you call me, my feelings won't be hurt.
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Every school is paying for recruits

And every school is now having to deal with millionaire teenagers, and their feelings.
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it’s not like we have this huge albatross that no one else bears

I never said it was unique to LSU. I'm just saying that for enough money, you can forget my name, I'm just going to get the job done - no feelings involved.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17099 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:43 am to
I’m going to be honest, I’m still struggling to understand how any of what you you are saying relates to what we are talking about.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3779 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:44 am to
Read the article.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17099 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:47 am to
I read the whole thing brother. All you are doing is talking about how much of a go getter you are and how you don’t let anyone tell you what to do. No one cares and it’s irrelevant.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3779 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:49 am to
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I’m still struggling to understand how any of what you you are saying relates to what we are talking about.

We're paying these kids like professionals, but they're still teenagers that have to be coddled. That's a bad combination.

A highly paid professional should already know what to do. You shouldn't have to coddle them.

Back in the day, some coaches used to just call players by their numbers. You couldn't do that today with all the fragile feelings.

Like I said, for a million dollars, I don't give a frick if you remember my name or not.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3779 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:53 am to
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I read the whole thing brother. All you are doing is talking about how much of a go getter you are and how you don’t let anyone tell you what to do. No one cares and it’s irrelevant.

Good fricking god, man, I made one single mention of that in one fricking post, get over it.

IF YOU PAID ME A MILLION DOLLARS, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO KNOW MY NAME, AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN'T EXPECT THAT KIND OF PROFESSIONALISM FROM A TEENAGER.

Is that clear enough for you?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17099 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:57 am to
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We're paying these kids like professionals, but they're still teenagers that have to be coddled. That's a bad combination.

Knowing your name isn’t coddling. That’s like the bare minimum.
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A highly paid professional should already know what to do. You shouldn't have to coddle them.

Again not sure how this relates. Do you think NFL players aren’t told what to do by their coaches?
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Like I said, for a million dollars, I don't give a frick if you remember my name or not.

Literally no one gives a frick about what you’ve said.

Just because your boss doesn’t give a frick about you doesn’t mean that’s how every job is.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113293 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:06 pm to
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not defending Kelly, at fricking all, but these kids want to be "pros?" and they are, and they want to be coddled like babies too?



Exactly what I was thinking when I read that. But coddling still has to be done unfortunately.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17099 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Good fricking god, man, I made one single mention of that in one fricking post, get over it.

4 separate posts. I know earlier in this thread you were talking about paying kids that can’t read. Sounds like you gotta get better at counting…
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I don't need constant badgering to do my job. In my 40 year career, rarely did my supervisor tell me what to do.

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I do remember one time when a supervisor tried to tell me what to do, I went right to the director…

He never tried to give me any direction after that.


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Generally my supervisors understood that my work helped make them look better, and they let me do my job. A good manager is usually relieved when they get an employee that they don't have to micromanage, and is self-motivated.

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I'm just saying that for enough money, you can forget my name, I'm just going to get the job done
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
792 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:12 pm to
He’s obviously retarded, let him continue to make a fool of himself.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7797 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:11 pm to
being felt wanted is a desire from everyone, and should the NIL be the same, could be the difference in getting a great player or not.
Posted by TheOldMan
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2022
665 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:24 pm to
Kelly was here to collect his pre retirement checks. That’s it. He didn’t give a damn about his job. Woody was an idiot not to vet him better before giving him the keys to the Brinks truck.
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
8029 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:03 pm to
Scott made a lazy and expensive hire.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33136 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:04 pm to
The laziness of Kelly is just astonishing. And everyone knew, only released to the public after he’s fired.
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