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Will Wade is not Les miles

Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:47 am
Posted by Tigerboy55
Member since Feb 2020
711 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:47 am
Stop saying he is Les miles people, people need to calm it down, He took a program that went 2-16 in the sec and he won the sec regular season in 2nd year of coaching.He is a great recruiter and an even better coach. Stop saying he is Les miles every time we lose
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 7:53 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:48 am to
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Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39348 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:52 am to
What kind of ego maniac makes a separate thread called "Will Wade" when there are already threads about him (with better titles) on the board?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:53 am to
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he won the sec regular season in 2nd year of coaching.He is a great recruiter and an even better coach


do you even know what a great coach is ????, he may be a very good recruiter.

How many future professional players were in that team ???
Posted by Tigerboy55
Member since Feb 2020
711 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:56 am to
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How many future professional players were in that team?
Well he also won the sec that year and coached them well
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 7:57 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57698 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:58 am to
Paul Mainieri is les. Nothing about Will is like Les except maybe good recruiting and questionable coaching
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47885 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:59 am to
1 player, You must not watch much LSU basketball.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 8:00 am
Posted by Tigerboy55
Member since Feb 2020
711 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:07 am to
Tremont and Naz were the only nba players on that on the team
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21747 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:23 am to
Correct.

Quite the contrary Les took a 7 or 8 win SEC program and made it a 5 win SEC program

Wade took a 2 win SEC team and has made it a 12 win a year (on average) SEC team.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 8:24 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28363 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:35 am to
The comparison comes from the fact that while both had/have very good overall success, there was/is a clear deficiency on one side of the ball holding them back from potentially being great that seemed/seems to go unaddressed year after year. For Les it was the offense. At first most fans ignored it because Les had great success in his first three years at LSU. Then they turned their ire to the players (namely the QB's) for the constant poor play. Then, the realization came that after multiple years of the offense being an anchor holding the team back from being championship level it might be the ONE constant that was the biggest issue, and that was the HC's approach/philosophy on offense.

Here, Wade has had very good success in his first 3 years. NO ONE is denying that. But the lack defense has been an anchor holding his teams back from potentially being championship level. While even his first LSU team was very solid offensive unit, his last two teams have been national champion level elite offensively. That's not just my opinion. The advanced statistics bear that out. But his first three teams have been below average to horrible (this year) defensively. One season is too small of a sample size. Two seasons could have too many variables for comparison. But once you get to three season and the same issues are there then you have a trend. And that trend is the same as Miles, just in opposite directions. His offense is great. But his defense is terrible. That's where the comparison comes from and I don't think it is unreasonable.

Now, is Wade going to be as stubborn as Miles and just flat our refuse to try to develop a meaningful fix to the glaring issue? No one knows. He seems to be a proactive coach who is willing to be honest and recognize deficiencies. Thus, I'm optimistic change will come. But seeing is believing and we'll have to wait until next season to see if that happens.

Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14161 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:42 am to
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The comparison comes from the fact that while both had/have very good overall success, there was/is a clear deficiency on one side of the ball holding them back from potentially being great that seemed/seems to go unaddressed year after year. For Les it was the offense. At first most fans ignored it because Les had great success in his first three years at LSU. Then they turned their ire to the players (namely the QB's) for the constant poor play. Then, the realization came that after multiple years of the offense being an anchor holding the team back from being championship level it might be the ONE constant that was the biggest issue, and that was the HC's approach/philosophy on offense.

Here, Wade has had very good success in his first 3 years. NO ONE is denying that. But the lack defense has been an anchor holding his teams back from potentially being championship level. While even his first LSU team was very solid offensive unit, his last two teams have been national champion level elite offensively. That's not just my opinion. The advanced statistics bear that out. But his first three teams have been below average to horrible (this year) defensively. One season is too small of a sample size. Two seasons could have too many variables for comparison. But once you get to three season and the same issues are there then you have a trend. And that trend is the same as Miles, just in opposite directions. His offense is great. But his defense is terrible. That's where the comparison comes from and I don't think it is unreasonable.

Now, is Wade going to be as stubborn as Miles and just flat our refuse to try to develop a meaningful fix to the glaring issue? No one knows. He seems to be a proactive coach who is willing to be honest and recognize deficiencies. Thus, I'm optimistic change will come. But seeing is believing and we'll have to wait until next season to see if that happens.








Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:42 am to
It's crazy how good things have been at LSU the last 20 years that the worst insult people can throw at a coach is "[insert coach] is Les Miles!!"

Posted by Tigerboy55
Member since Feb 2020
711 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:45 am to
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What kind of ego maniac makes a separate thread called "Will Wade" when there are already threads about him
What kind of ego maniac likes there own post
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 8:46 am
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16446 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:45 am to
He’s still young. Basketball is sport most reliant on great recruiting. He’s known for that. He’s also assembled a good staff and when he gets a post presence next year everything will come back together. Very high Ceiling for CWW
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1932 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:47 am to
And Tremont and Naz are playing in the Development League. I question if that is better than playing in the NCAA.

Tremont was also a player that could take over a game. None of our present players are developed to that level YET.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3292 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:52 am to
Naz is a solid post player in the nba.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:12 am to
If Will Wade had the type of talent in MBB that Les had for football, and had the same results, I would say he'd be a disappointment. Wade has only been here for what 3 seasons? I think if he stays long term, and continues the great recruiting, he will be very successful. The problem is, just like every other coach in MBB, he has to compete against the NBA. Players leaving early, and not having the depth of recruiting is going to affect him more this early in his career at LSU than other coaches who've been at other D1 schools for longer.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77418 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:14 am to
Any lsu coach who loses a game is les miles
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8162 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:16 am to
We have the worst basketball fans, truly the worst. Hopefully enough people drop season tickets after this “awful” season so I can get some cheap for next year when we are a top 10 team
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66555 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:17 am to
Realistically people need to stop pretending the basketball program is close to the football program

We don’t have a ton of elite instate talent
We don’t have the best facilities
We don’t play in the best conference
We don’t have the best history
We’ve never won the NCAA tournament.

We have a lot of potential, but realistically we’re going to have down years. Especially after how late year ended.


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