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re: Will the Dismissal of Perriloux Cost Miles His Job?

Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:48 pm to
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That's NOT my job. That was MILES' responsibility. Pay me 4 million dollars and I'll spend days on here giving you 200 threads of solutions.



Based on what I've read from you, you're not worth $4, much less $4,000,000.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60938 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:49 pm to
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Great idea from master of Great Ideas! Tongue firmly in cheek...


The definite article says "hi", with tongue in cheek of course.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:49 pm to
Fair enough. Answer the question that I asked you.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60938 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:49 pm to
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Based on what I've read from you, you're not worth $4, much less $4,000,000


Posted by Chuck U Farley
The 318
Member since Oct 2007
8994 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:51 pm to
RP was a huge distraction and miles did the right thing. He gave him plenty of chances. Miles has try to fix every problem that has occurred through out his tenure. Codnators, he got chavis, no RP he got hatch and lee, he has since recruited high character guys. Put brakes on with Dexter pratt and it was a good call by him. He has adapted in some places. However, he and his staff don't make great game adjustments, he seems to have lost that fire he had, and his media skills are lacking. If he continues to attempt to fix the obvious problems he should be given the chance to redeem himself. If friendships get in the way. He and his staff will suffer.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:52 pm to
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That's NOT my job. That was MILES' responsibility. Pay me 4 million dollars and I'll spend days on here giving you 200 threads of solutions.



Then your argument that LSU should have never recruited RP falls flat. So, what your saying is LSU just shouldn't have recruited the most hyped player to come from Louisiana in 10 years and should have turned their attention to ???

Stick to the Political board. At least when you fail in there, 90% of the loons have your back.
Posted by yessir
Here
Member since Apr 2008
6585 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:53 pm to
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Answer the question that I asked you.


There's no way to tell. Too many variables based on players attitude. Not skirting around the question. Even if we would have had the chance at 10-2 I still wouldn't want him here. Poor attitude and discipline is a virus that eats at a team and it's not wanted or needed.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:54 pm to
Very good post.
Posted by fitz1190
Member since Aug 2008
3557 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:54 pm to
if Miles doesnt sign Perriloux, who plays QB in the 2007 SEC Championship game?... and do we win. He did contribute in that game.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84758 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:55 pm to
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Then your argument that LSU should have never recruited RP falls flat. So, what your saying is LSU just shouldn't have recruited the most hyped player to come from Louisiana in 10 years and should have turned their attention to ???

Stick to the Political board. At least when you fail in there, 90% of the loons have your back.



Posted by ANAKINSKY
colorado
Member since Jan 2005
6138 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:55 pm to
the team will win a NC next year with a more seasoned JJ and a florida-tebow, so no. He had to let RP go and he likely would not have won 10+ with a blow fish on the team. You are right in going back to RP though because this is really the root. Miles has made right decision after right decision with the QB's. Hatch was the best to start last year. He had to give a 1year redshirt the start over a raw freshmen, and this year, obviously JJ was the best QB to start. Barring injuries and rogue officials we will be in the hunt next year with great Dline, WR's and QB. Ford will be great, the only question mark will be OLINE.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:56 pm to
I totally agree. But it's upsetting to think that the dismissal of RP is why we are having such a difficult time offensively.
Posted by geauxtigers6492
Admin in Waiting
Member since Jun 2008
3981 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:57 pm to
I dont know if this was brought up to your attention yet...

But we had a HORRIBLE Defense last year...10 wins was a stretch last year
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60938 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:58 pm to
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Then your argument that LSU should have never recruited RP falls flat. So, what your saying is LSU just shouldn't have recruited the most hyped player to come from Louisiana in 10 years and should have turned their attention to ???


What argument? You started a "hindsight" thread and get confused when people answer with the obvious? No one knew THEN. But we know now. Therefore, given what we know now, Miles did the wrong thing in recruiting RP. He could have recruited a level headed 3 star QB and at least would would have a senior QB on the team.

The intent of this thread, as you should know, is to Monday morning Quarterback, but as soon as we start doing that people get upset?
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:58 pm to
Good post. I really hope JJ is much improved next year. Although Alabama should be just as good and McElroy will probably improve as well.
Posted by yessir
Here
Member since Apr 2008
6585 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:58 pm to
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But it's upsetting to think that the dismissal of RP is why we are having such a difficult time offensively.


True, but it's better in the long run, and he seems to have made a turn around, which makes it better long run for him, too.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:59 pm to
"But we had a HORRIBLE Defense last year...10 wins was a stretch last year."


Agreed. But, RP probably would not have given up 7 pick 6's and would have had the ability to throw the ball all over the field.
Posted by fitz1190
Member since Aug 2008
3557 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 1:01 pm to
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The intent of this thread, as you should know, is to Monday morning Quarterback, but as soon as we start doing that people get upset?

i dont see the point in this game. at the time, Miles signed a prized recruit virtually the entire fanbase wanted. Miles then rid the team of a bad apple. Sounds like 2 good decisions to me. Now, with all of your knowledge of the past, you get to blame Miles for being wrong... yeh thats fair.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 1:05 pm to
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The intent of this thread, as you should know, is to Monday morning Quarterback, but as soon as we start doing that people get upset?



No...

You hijacked this thread and changed the subject. I listened to your asinine point of view that LSU shouldn't have gone after the #1 player in the country, when Miles had no time to recruit another qb.

You don't understand the full context of the situation that Miles stepped into in late 2004.

But I don't blame you for simply criticizing and not offering a practical solution- that's why you're a much better fit for the Political board.
Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1718 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 1:26 pm to
It is a very valid point to look at what the fallout from the RP dismissal has been.

Do we lose all those games last year with a QB who can run the whole offense, has experience, and doesn't give 50 points to the other teams?

Do we lose to UF and BAMA this year with a 5th year senior RP under center...with his talents?

It is a valid question.


A couple of things i don't consider valid BTW:

"It is Miles fault for not having someone right behind him"

RP's redshirt year when we did not sign a QB the roster was Russell-with 2 yrs left, Flynn-with 2 yrs left, RP-with 4 yrs left. No blue chip recruit was signing here that year. Keep dreaming.

In addition, virtually no program can absorb the kind of loss we took when we let RP go. If UF kicks Tebow off the team after his sophmore year...Cameron Newton is there QB (he plays for Blinn JC now). If Bama kicks Sarah Jessica off the team after his sophmore year then they are playing McElroy (who sucks right now as a 5th yr) as a redshirt sophmore. You have seen what happened to OU this year in a similar lost player situation. USC does a better job at this then most and even they have been effected by a player they didn't expect to lose. Good recruiting teams can absorb just about any lost player...except QB.

"We shouldn't have recruited him"

Really....i know of not a single fan of either LSU or UT who didn't want RP at the time. RP was no more of an issue than McKnight as far as troubled kids go...he has turned out fine. No way anyone could have known.

From what i remember and what i am told the Saban/RP thing was more like RP had no interest in Saban than Saban had no interest in RP.


I would classify last season and this one as short term bumps in the road caused in great measure by the decision to dismiss the starting QB from the team...with some bad coaching thrown in as well...though i put the QB thing as a much bigger factor then the coaching.
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