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re: Will Les Miles ever find Redemption in the eyes of Tiger Fans?

Posted on 12/18/22 at 1:11 am to
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38814 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 1:11 am to
Orgeron wasn't great but he was an ok coach when he was all in like he was his first few years. Once he stopped caring he crashed hard like we all knew he would when he was hired
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31915 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 1:16 am to
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Orgeron wasn't great but he was an ok coach when he was all in like he was his first few years.


I agree with you here. The first few years, he actually seemed to care. He had better assistants that he inherited when Miles was fired.


We get to 2019 and he claimed all the success, which isn't all him. We're talking Aranda, Ensminger, Burrow, Bill Busch.

He was successful in 2019 because he stayed out of the way.

The following years, without those assistants that I just mentioned, the results speak for themselves.

I don't wish any ill on the guy but the way he departed LSU just stinks. Take the money and run. So much for the "dream job."

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Once he stopped caring he crashed hard like we all knew he would when he was hired



I agree with this too.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16125 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 2:26 am to
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spare me the "mass exodus" from 2019 excuse.


Aranda
Brady

Burrow
CEH
Jefferson
Chase
Moss
Charles
Magee
Cushenberry
Lewis
Sullivan
Dillion

Fulton
Chaisson
Delpit
Vincent
Phillips
Queen
Divinity
Shelvin
Fehoko
Lawrence

That’s 3/4 coordinators and almost every starter. It’s actually impressive they replaced all that and won 5 SEC games.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31915 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 2:34 am to
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It’s actually impressive they replaced all that and won 5 SEC games



Impressive? Impressive would be to sustain a program. Not be apathetic about the job he was hired to do.

I'm not saying he wasn't a good recruiter. Where were the ones to fill those positions you just mentioned. After two years.

He inherited Aranda,Ensminger, he got Brady, he discovered Burrow because of Bill Busch.

I'll give him credit for getting Burrow here but let's not pretend he was some coach that knew what he was doing. 2020 and 2021 shows he didn't or just didn't care.
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 2:46 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31915 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 2:36 am to
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That’s 3/4 coordinators



That he inherited.


How were his coordinator hires after the ones that were on staff when he was named HC left?


Strange how you dodged his last two seasons.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 7:23 am to
If I recall, Humphries was Tommy Hodson's backup and he was not great. I might be wrong about Hodson, but the dude was not some star in waiting.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 7:25 am to
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Screw Miles and Dale Brown.


its an unpopular take here. This board loves to suck off Daddy Dale, but I must concur.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 7:29 am to
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How were his coordinator hires after the ones that were on staff when he was named HC left?

Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2212 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 7:33 am to
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If I recall, Humphries was Tommy Hodson's backup and he was not great. I might be wrong about Hodson, but the dude was not some star in waiting.


What are you guys talking about? Stan Humphries never played for LSU, he went to Northeast (ULM). Mickey Guidry was Tommy Hodson’s backup.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 8:41 am to
At the time 1-AA NLU was QBU. Bubby Brister, Stan Humphries, and Doug Pedersen. Moved to 1-A and been losing ever since.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87998 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 8:45 am to
Humphries signed with LSU and was on campus, didn’t have the chest and had the reputation of being a head case
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113101 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:22 am to
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Humphries signed with LSU and was on campus,



That's correct. And Stan was an elite college QB and played & started some games in the NFL. Not a head case, more like a party animal who had no interest in going to classes. Pistol Pete was also a legendary party animal at LSU, but at least he did show up to most of his classes.
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
621 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:21 am to
Mikey Guidry was Hodson's backup.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
36615 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:22 am to
Nope....

He had OBJ, Jarvis, Russel Shepherd, James Wright, Lafell, and Reuben Randle on the sidelines that miserable January night in 2012...

why didn't he put 4 wide outs in with Mettenberger in the shotgun in the 2d half....what did he have to lose...

rather than standing on the sideline like a stunned mullet.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8816 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:27 am to
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His time management skills sucked the fun out of LSU football for me.


That, the toss dive, and the constant incomplete passes on second and long.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87998 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:22 pm to
Started a Super Bowl
Posted by slaphappy
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2005
2371 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:40 pm to
Not just that he lost to Alabama. It was the way he lost...like they didn't want to be there. Such a humiliating end to one of the top 5 seasons in LSU history.
Posted by Bandits58
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2015
3492 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:06 pm to
Not!! Stay away!!
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7137 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:56 pm to
No, he won NC with Saban recruits.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7137 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:58 pm to
Best coach in Tiger history? How old are you? Every heard of Nick Saban and Charlie McClendon?
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