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re: Will Ensminger be the OC next season?

Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:50 am to
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:50 am to
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I think you are confusing hatred, with a desire for LSU to be successful. What's holding them back? The offense. So, people discussing improving the offense does not equal hatred of anybody.


It's just politics entering football. 2019 - if you don't have data to support your argument (that O is meeting expectations), run a smear campaign on anyone who is critical and throw the word hatred in there and watch how many cajun sheep come running out the wood works to defend their beloved coach from those jerks that are just judging the man because of his accent.


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Fact 5 
New OC 


Lolol. No. He hired the OC from 2016 because HE CHOSE to fire Canada. Sorry, he doesnt get a pass for that.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:54 am
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5482 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:57 am to
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One thing that makes this LSU team “completely different,” Saban said, is “they’re going fastball, they’re playing tempo, they are [in] a lot more open formations than what they have been in the past. “They’re not in the I-formation just trying to run the ball against people. [They are} creating a lot more issues and problems for you the way they utilize the personnel. “This team is nothing like any team that we've ever played before at LSU.


You win trev.
You’re smarter and understand football better than nick Saban.

How dare anyone challenge you when discussing the offense of the LSU Tigers.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:00 pm to
Yea we created so many problems for them that they shut us out at home again.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:02 pm to
Bingo
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1927 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:04 pm to
Name some, Power 5 schools only, please
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25464 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Name some, Power 5 schools only, please


Ok sure. Give me five minutes to look it up.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25464 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:27 pm to
Here is the list of all teams ranked ahead of LSU in total offense that have far less talent on the OLine. (I also left a few off, which probably should have been added).

Memphis
UCF
Houston
Ole Miss
Okie Lite
Utah St
Texas Tech
Mizzou
FAU
Ohio
Arkansas St
Syracuse
North Texas
Boise State
Baylor
Cincy
Arizona
NC St
Wake
Purdue
Toledo
UNC
USF
UMass
Western Michigan
App st
Nevada
Old Dominion
Oregon
South Carolina
ULL
FIU
Fresno
Hawaii
Arizona St
Indiana
Air Force
ULM
Buffalo
ECU
Vandy
Colorado St
Temple
Ga Tech
Illinois
Ball St
UAB
Duke
Oregon St
Boston College


That's 50 teams, with less talented offensive lines that finished ranked ahead of LSU in total offense. (21 P5 teams included)
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:48 pm to
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That holds more weight than guessing where we will be IF we get commits that we haven't gotten yet.
#top10incoming!!!!
The Cheerio battle cry of Jan 2018.
Hoping he will, but as HC Ed has yet to prove he can finish.

Top 10 this year would be ok if some flipping knocks a few SEC foes below LSU I guess.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108668 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:05 pm to
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Cheerio

I really, really wish this would go away. We should all be cheering on O as LSU fans.
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Top 10 this year would be ok

Top 10 is always a good class and much better than "just ok" IMO. If I understand correctly, we definitely won't be moving down and those ahead of us are so because of quantity and not quality. However, I do agree with the not counting chickens before they hatch philosophy. I've been waiting until we get the signed LOI before getting excited for a long, long time.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290833 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Now with these idiots it’s like talking to screaming children

They don’t ever discuss football, they go into full meltdown


Read this ^^^^


Then read this

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This place has gone into the shitter ever since these ppl arrived. Even during the Miles arguments ppl could agree to disagree and it was usually a tit fur tat throwing facts and numbers back and forth at each other. Now with these idiots it’s like talking to screaming children while they’re throwing a fit. They don’t ever discuss football, they go into full meltdown if they’re presented with facts, they start hurling insults derail threads and throw hissy fits at the drop of a hat. They must be very young because adults don’t act the way these ppl do and don’t post more emojis that letters. Cherri0s are fascist in nature and have truly ruined a great discussion board, they try to police speech and thought in literally every thread as well



Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:31 pm to
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I really, really wish this would go away. We should all be cheering on O as LSU fans.
It's a term for those who cheer the homeboy coach at all costs.
I cheer for LSU, and wish for the staff that brings the most to the table in the quest for more SEC titles and NCs than the last 2 regimes.
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Top 10 is always a good class and much better than "just ok" IMO.
Unfortunately Top 10 luster is tied to the SEC recruiting rank (4th) and LSU can ill afford falling lower if UF or AU makes a late charge.

NB4 doesn't matter, address needs.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16710 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Top 10 is always a good class and much better than "just ok" IMO. If I understand correctly, we definitely won't be moving down and those ahead of us are so because of quantity and not quality. However, I do agree with the not counting chickens before they hatch philosophy. I've been waiting until we get the signed LOI before getting excited for a long, long time.

Anyone that follows recruiting knows that 247 and Rivals will drop player rankings based on who attends their camps. Some guys jump and others fall. Kardell fell on dramatically on one service and dropped to a 4 star, but is the #1 OG in the country. Depending on service we currently have signed the:
#1 CB Stingley(#1 overall recruit by rivals)
#1 OLB Brooks
#1 OG Thomas
#1 RB Emery

We still have 4 spots to fill. The 4 teams in front of us are separated by 7 points (277-284). Only one has a higher ranking average than LSU. The other 4 have more spots filled and ultimately we are talking about minimal separation so what does 3-7 really mean. UGA and Bama OTOH are separated substantially from the rest of the CFB world which leads into another discussion.

With our open spots we had in 2018 we added Burrow, Tracy and Alexander. Does anyone really want to complain about us giving a spot to Tracy and Burrow?

One of our 2019 spots is for Cade York who hit the longest FG in the history of the UA game. His commit brings our rating down. I'm fine with that.

There's plenty to be critical of with the staff, but where some of these posters choose to plant their flag shows a severe lack of deeper analytical processing.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:39 pm to
Thanks for confirming what I said. I really do appreciate all the help man, you do such a great job of driving home and illustrating my point. I couldn’t post a better example myself. Btw your gif game is so weak idve thought a hip little girl like you who’s so savvy with emojis that you could do better.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290833 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:44 pm to
You're an only child, arent you? have you always cried when someone doesn't agree with you?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79426 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:49 pm to
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One of our 2019 spots is for Cade York who hit the longest FG in the history of the UA game. His commit brings our rating down.


At this point that’s not really true

The only way a recruit brings your rating “down” is if they’re taking a spot that could have been filled by a higher rated player.

So unless we are turning away 5 stars for a kicker he still helps our rating to some degree.

It’s sorta fricked up because a 29 person class will beat a lot of 25 person classes regardless of average talent
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:50 pm to
Quite possibly the most ironic post in this thread and that’s a tough task. Do you have any self awareness at all? All you do is cry about ppl exposing your BS then after I crush you yet again you wait hours then try to sneak a post in addressing it to someone els and talking about me like a little girl gossiping behind someone’s back lol. You are the epitome of pathetic.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:53 pm to
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His commit brings our rating down. I'm fine with that.
Honestly, just maybe other FBS signed FG kickers, and if LSU's is ranked best, maybe less watered down class than others?

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290833 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Quite possibly the most ironic post in this thread and that’s a tough task. Do you have any self awareness at all? All you do is cry about ppl exposing your BS then after I crush you yet again you wait hours then try to sneak a post in addressing it to someone els and talking about me like a little girl gossiping behind someone’s back



Solid, solid melt, my baw.

Here, let me refer you to your own post

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This place has gone into the shitter ever since these ppl arrived. Even during the Miles arguments ppl could agree to disagree and it was usually a tit fur tat throwing facts and numbers back and forth at each other. Now with these idiots it’s like talking to screaming children while they’re throwing a fit. They don’t ever discuss football, they go into full meltdown if they’re presented with facts, they start hurling insults derail threads and throw hissy fits at the drop of a hat. They must be very young because adults don’t act the way these ppl do and don’t post more emojis that letters. Cherri0s are fascist in nature and have truly ruined a great discussion board, they try to police speech and thought in literally every thread as well
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 2:01 pm to
Yea you keep posting it over and over again yet you embody everything in that post. The way you obsess over me is fricking beyond weird. Not once did I address you today and I wasn’t even posting in this thread until you jumped in for no reason to makeup lies about an argument like 12 ppl were having with one of your brethren yesterday. Obsessed as usual you started tossing around insults and making stupid assumptions that had nothing to do with the topic and were completely false as usual. You’re a creep you follow me around like a Love sick teenager half the time dropping posts you hope I don’t read like a gossip queen. Get a life dude you’ll never be on the right side of these things because your only position is that you hate me. Grow up creep
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16710 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 2:02 pm to
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At this point that’s not really true The only way a recruit brings your rating “down” is if they’re taking a spot that could have been filled by a higher rated player. So unless we are turning away 5 stars for a kicker he still helps our rating to some degree.

York is a 2 star even though he's the #2 ranked kicker. We also have the #2 ranked long snapper who is also a 2 star. They drag our rating down, but are essential players.

Now, would I re-assess who I'm giving offers to if I have a shot at a 5 star OT? Of course, but we still need to fill these positions and every few years these players will affect the rating. That's OK though because I'll take a GW FG over a spot or two in rating.

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It’s sorta fricked up because a 29 person class will beat a lot of 25 person classes regardless of average talent

Yep. Michigan is just ahead of us because they have 27 commits due to backfill. Bama has 28. I put more stock in rating average than overall points, but as I illustrated above that can be skewed based on position of the commit. Kardell is the #1 OG, but is a 4 star. He was a 5 star a few weeks ago though. Center is another spot that gets low ratings as well and we have the IMG OC that's a 3 star. He's too light right now though so the plan is to use him as a blocking TE until he can get his weight up.
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