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re: Will Blackwell on Coach Miles and the lost Natty

Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62025 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:05 pm to
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in the sec west, not winning your own division doesn’t disqualify you from being one of the top 2 teams.


What? I have been reading the crying on here for 9 straight years that BAMA should have been disqualified for not winning their division. They are the ONLY team anybody makes that argument about. Wtf are you talking about?

And I disagree with both you, and I guess, the committee. It should have ALWAYS been the most “deserving” team, rather than “best.” It’s simply less subjective and rewards teams for playing more difficult schedules and —gasp—actually wining their conference. And an extra game. Conference winners who lost a game are 12-1. The 2 years Bama won the NC without winning the West, they were 11-1.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10085 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:00 pm to
Poor whining bitches, greatest season in FB history, and this is what he is focuses on, maybe he should have fing tried to block in that game.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85659 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:26 pm to
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That video just reminded me of how much of a fricking idiot Les Miles was. He wasted one of the greatest defenses in LSU history. What a debacle that game was.


Must not be that big of an idiot, he built the greatest defense in LSU history.

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:46 pm to
When LSU Is not in the mix for the title, I always want to see the best two teams play in the title game. Therefore, to not be a hypocrite, when LSU is in the mix for the title, I also want to see the best two teams play in the title game. That’s why I never had an issue with bama being in. if the best two teams are from the SEC west, then that’s who I wanna see.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38404 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:47 pm to
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When LSU Is not in the mix for the title, I always want to see the best two teams play in the title game. Therefore, to not be a hypocrite, when LSU is in the mix for the title, I also want to see the best two teams play in the title game. That’s why I never had an issue with bama being in. if the best two teams are from the SEC west, then that’s who I wanna see.


That's fair, but the logic of the entire situation made no sense.

LSU had already beat them, already had a much harder schedule, then had to go play a harder game while Bama sat at home. Then had to go beat Bama AGAIN, when everyone knows when two teams are that close in quality that winning twice is a tough task.

It made literally no sense outside of Bama being the other most talented team. Not necessarily best because they DIDN'T do what they needed to do to get to the game except the voters wanting them there. They had their shot in the hardest game of the year and lost. Someone else - OSU - should have been given a shot.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:56 pm to
It was just bad luck, you can’t take a clearly inferior team And put them in imo. You should always take the best two.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7150 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:17 pm to
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You should always take the best two.
Define "best."

Is it the most talented team?

What if Bama had lost two games instead of just one; would they still be the one of the two "best" teams?

And if talent is not the only criterion, does it matter where you lost?

Does it not matter at all that Bama lost at home? That OSU and LSU did not lose at home?

Games matter. Bama lost the game that could have made them conference champion. They lost at home.

Talent should not be the only criterion. Bama was allowed to replay the team that beat them in their own stadium, and the result of that second chance, a chance for redemption (which is a mighty strong motivator) is used to justify the decision to give them that second chance.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:50 pm to
A One loss SEC team should go over a one loss team from any other conference 90% of the time or more. Best conference by a mile. Bama being bama it was easy to see they were far superior to ok state.
Posted by GoDeepCoach
Bossier
Member since Sep 2010
876 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 11:21 pm to
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It was a product of Blackwell and his pals on the oline not bothering to show up. Watch the game again. Bama d line lived in the backfield all night.


Wrong. Completely wrong. If an offense cannot throw the call at all and has a quarterback scared to death every play looking like a deer in the headlights then what does the defense do? They pin their ears back and send almost everyone. Don’t blame the offensive line, blame Miles for having no quality quarterback and no offensive system. You clearly know nothing about football or this game if you’re going to blame the offensive line??? Are you that stupid?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41939 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 11:53 pm to
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Must not be that big of an idiot, he built the greatest defense in LSU history.


He lucked up that Chavis was fired at Tennessee and fell into his lap.

frick his anemic offense.

However, thanks for 07 CLM.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22838 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 6:13 am to
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Must not be that big of an idiot, he built the greatest defense in LSU history.



He lucked up that Chavis was fired at Tennessee and fell into his lap.

frick his anemic offense.

However, thanks for 07 CLM.
You really can't pin the 2011 offense on Les. He made a move to correct that offense, hiring the former Louisville coach in January. We were all hopeful that we'd see a more open attack get implemented, remember? And then, Kragthorpe stepped down in August, way too late to replace from outside. We were stuck using Studrawa, who was the only guy on staff with experience as one. He was supposed to be the O Line coach. Remember Les had to sorta fill that O Line spot himself because of the timing.

And yet, the team did enough to go 13-0, and put a lot of scalps on the wall. Might not have been record-setting, but it was good enough until Alabama Pt 2. Sometimes, you just gotta do what you can.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 7:20 am to
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Lee was 3/7 for 24 yards and two awful INT's. I don't think there has ever been a LSU QB more afraid of contact that him. He would start ducking to run away from contact AS he was throwing the ball. Lee makes NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER in the BCSNG



The fact remains. JJ had zero production and it is the last game of the season. It does not matter who went in JJ needed to come out period.

The problem to start with was that Miles had a shite game plan and he was too dumb to see it and he did not have the sack to change at half-time.

Remember there was 1 month till that game and Mettenburger was on that team. Along with Landry and OBJ. Arguably the best WR combo in the country that year.

All of this points to piss poor coaching.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15773 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 8:28 am to
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It was a product of Blackwell and his pals on the oline not bothering to show up. Watch the game again. Bama d line lived in the backfield all night.


Wow you are a moron! No it was the fact that LSU basically ran the same offensive plan from the first game and Alabama knew it. This and the Fact Les Miles is Clueless and decided to keep running into a box of the best Lb's and Dl in the nation. Les Miles Lost the Fans that night and probably alot of the players as well. Glad he is gone.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 9:37 am to
When bama linemen are UNTOUCHED and in the backfield that's on the oline. You are the one that knows nothing about football madden boy.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 9:42 am to
He lost madden jockeys like you that haven't got a clue about real football. Now go back to your mommy's basement kid.
Posted by Addywalker10
Philadelphia, MS
Member since Nov 2019
34 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:08 am to
Not so. Will just verbalized what 90% of Tiger fans were thinking. That was the most embarrassing performance of an LSU football team that I have seen in 57-years of watching them. The attitude that Coach Miles exhibited that night eventually cost him dearly, we kept him 2-years too long.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:42 am to
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Lee makes NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER in the BCSNG

Correct.

I have always agreed with people who say Miles should have put Lee in against Bama in the natty. The offense with Jefferson was as inept as it gets. There was nothing to lose.

I have also always said that it wouldn't have mattered. We wouldn't have scored. Lee would have probably thrown a pick six.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 11:43 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 12:25 pm to
Will, we were 13-1, 9-0, won the west, won the SEC and had to go 2-0 vs Bama to win the NC. We couldn’t do it. Get over yourself and stop acting like a rotten sport.
Posted by Sundance
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
445 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:25 pm to
I was at the game and disappointed beyond belief. I have seen teams quit but never a coach. Sadly, Miles was totally unprepared and it showed. Whether Jarret Lee could have made a difference is immaterial. Jefferson was not doing anything and Miles owed it to the team and fans to TRY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, instead of run to the right, run to the left, pass and kick.
:( :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11301 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:53 pm to
I remember him on his arse in the back field as he was bull rushed all night. I find it completely comical he or T Bob say anything about that game when the O line was damned near 100% responsible for that loss.

The defense stood as firm as it could considering the massive amounts of 3 and outs the offense provided.

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