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re: Why'd LSU start Paul Skenes - WWL Article
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:40 am to sabbertooth
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:40 am to sabbertooth
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If we cant beat OSU with our bullpen Omaha is a moot point.
Why do people keep saying this shite
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:41 am to sabbertooth
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If we cant beat OSU with our bullpen Omaha is a moot point.
The goal is always to get to Omaha. Even if you go 0-2, at least get the experience there for younger players that will be at LSU next year.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:47 am to sabbertooth
When did our bullpen become so popular amongst fans? 
It’s funny hearing people say this now. All year it’s been said to be our weakest link, now they’re about to throw strikes and shut down an Oregon State line up. All because Skenes starting was the right call.
Truth is Floyd needs to go 6 at least. The bats need to come alive.
I have faith in the team today. LSU 11 OSU 7
It’s funny hearing people say this now. All year it’s been said to be our weakest link, now they’re about to throw strikes and shut down an Oregon State line up. All because Skenes starting was the right call.
Truth is Floyd needs to go 6 at least. The bats need to come alive.
I have faith in the team today. LSU 11 OSU 7
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:53 am to josh336
quote:Stats are great but they don’t tell the whole story. This is a tournament and I’m pretty sure Johnson and Johnson know more about the match-ups than tRant.
I get it, doesnt mean i have to agree with it Also that part about him debating with wes johnson before the 9th, that doesnt give me the warm and fuzzies
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:53 am to LSUcajun77
Nate and Herring (no idea why I put Coop) have looked good coming out of the bullpen lately. Am I thrilled Skenes pitched yesterday? No. Partially bc I’m going to tonight’s game and thought I’d get to see him pitch. But this isn’t the end of the damn world. Can we stop melting about this yet? Will y’all stop melting when we win the regional in 3 or are we going to cry going into the supers too.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:56 am to josh336
quote:why? Shouldn’t the coaches bounce things off each other. I would feel bad if they didn’t have debates, even heated ones
Also that part about him debating with wes johnson before the 9th, that doesnt give me the warm and fuzzies
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:58 am to Senora Ramos
quote:I wasn’t a big fan. But a first game loss against a surging Tulane team coulda been devastating. Yes Tulane sucked for the better part of a year. But it ain’t like we blew em away yesterday.
Am I thrilled Skenes pitched yesterday?
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:58 am to jmon
The issue wasn’t if Skenes gave us best chance to beat Tulane…it’s does it give us best chance to win regional…I say no way.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:58 am to LSUcajun77
It’s a defense mechanism for talking themselves into a poor move by the coach
You can do just about anything as a team if you sensibly manage the weak part of your team, and catch a few breaks. Just about everyone is in this boat, just with different parts of their team.
LSU is at optimum strength out they get 5-6 ip from each of Floyd & Hurd. The idea is to not have to rely on the bullpen to beat anyone. Certainly not in GM2 of a regional. You’ve made some poor decisions if that is what you are hinging on.
You can do just about anything as a team if you sensibly manage the weak part of your team, and catch a few breaks. Just about everyone is in this boat, just with different parts of their team.
LSU is at optimum strength out they get 5-6 ip from each of Floyd & Hurd. The idea is to not have to rely on the bullpen to beat anyone. Certainly not in GM2 of a regional. You’ve made some poor decisions if that is what you are hinging on.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:58 am to Tiger1988
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I’m pretty sure Johnson and Johnson know more about the match-ups than tRant.
You really went out on a limb.
They get paid millions of dollars to make decisions.
This is a message board for discussing opinions.
Not every decision by a coach is the right one.
It’s okay to disagree with a coach’s decision. That’s what makes debating sports fun. But too many people here make it miserable, as if the coach is the only one who knows the sports.
You’d be surprised at how many former ballers post here. People know the game just as well, and can disagree.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:59 am to sabbertooth
I really feel that Skenes pitched yesterday so he would have a full 7 days rest to pitch Friday in Supers
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:01 am to jmon
So when he answered the question, he answered it ONLY as it related to the Tulane game with one minor exception:
Skenes saved the bullpen.
It's very scary that our coach feels that saving the bullpen and facing Oregon State minus Skenes is a better option than an unrested bullpen with Skenes on the mound.
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there's some other value of him being able to do what he did today that should help the rest of the pitchers the rest of the way.
Skenes saved the bullpen.
It's very scary that our coach feels that saving the bullpen and facing Oregon State minus Skenes is a better option than an unrested bullpen with Skenes on the mound.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:09 am to josh336
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Also that part about him debating with wes johnson before the 9th, that doesnt give me the warm and fuzzies
It does me. Clearly there is a head coach and a pitching coach. The approach of "he has the first three batters" made a lot of sense. As I have posted in multiple threads his stuff was still good.
For the overall game, about 68% of his pitches were strikes. He threw 124 total pitches. Yes it is his season-high pitch count by like 7 or 8 pitches. In his other high pitch count games he left in the 6th or 7th inning. His efficiency for those games was nowhere near where it was last night.
In 10 of his 16 starts he has thrown over 100 pitches.
I don't have his inning-by-inning pitch count at hand, but if I recall correctly he threw something like 5 pitches in the 9th. He was dealing in the 8th and pulling him would have been stupid.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:14 am to Lester Earl
quote:Well then LSU won’t win the regional. Not enough pitching and a stagnant offense.
Don’t leave out this part where he felt Tulane was too dangerous not to pitch anyone else
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:24 am to mdomingue
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Is there a different Les Miles than the old football coach at LSU? Because I can't see how any rational person thinks that sounds like LSU's former coach.
It's not the vernacular itself that is reminiscent. It's the situation. Hard-headed coach makes a dumb decision, some TDers question him while others act like the coach is completely infallible and anyone would be insane to question their decision.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:30 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
His average outing this year was 6.1ip and 102 pitches.
I’m not saying 124 is out of his comfort zone, but kinda throws a wrench about the idea this is about staying on schedule & rest.
You either get uncomfortable in the postseason or you don’t.
I’m not saying 124 is out of his comfort zone, but kinda throws a wrench about the idea this is about staying on schedule & rest.
You either get uncomfortable in the postseason or you don’t.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:32 am to moock blackjack
quote:wasn’t his worst outing of the year at the SECT after a shortened rest? Just going on what was on radio
really feel that Skenes pitched yesterday so he would have a full 7 days rest to pitch Friday in Supers
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:37 am to tigerfoot
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wasn’t his worst outing of the year at the SECT after a shortened rest? Just going on what was on radio
No.
He pitched the previous Thursday at UGA. He had a full weeks rest before Arkansas in Hoover.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:38 am to Senora Ramos
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Nate and Herring (no idea why I put Coop) have looked good coming out of the bullpen lately.
Pretty sure Cooper looked fantastic in the last outing as well.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:10 am to lsutyger23
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The issue wasn’t if Skenes gave us best chance to beat Tulane…it’s does it give us best chance to win regional…I say no way.
It's weird. Some of us think going 1-0 at any cost is the most important thing.
Others look at it that 2-0 is most important and taking some risks in game 1 is worth it if it gives you a better shot in game 2.
Johnson falls in camp 1. CPM, Sully, Corbin, and others fall in camp 2.
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