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re: Why would Chase take number 7?

Posted on 8/30/20 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 8/30/20 at 5:49 pm to
Let me ask it in a way you may understand... let’s say you work at the local Wendy’s on college drive.. you’ve been there a few years and management can tell you’re an up and comer, they want to award you with a golden spatula. Do you accept? Absolutely you do, because it’s an honor. Although in the back of your mind you’re just waiting on a call back from Waffle House to be their lead cook. Because at the end of the day it’s all about career progression.
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
4720 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:00 pm to
Let me insult your intelligence while making a statement that's obvious...sheesh this board.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14414 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

Most people would take the 30 mil on the table over a second national championship

The money is always there. Glory lasts forever.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:10 pm to
So completing an education, which would reduce the amount of outside help you’d have to pay to manage finances you cant on your own for lack of education, isn’t the better career move than a quick one year cash grab? You do realize 60% of 1st round picks blow their entire contract within the first year right? This accepted theory that it’s smart business to risk a lifetime in favor of a year or two of invaluable education is beyond ignorant. It’s a talking point with zero data to support it.
This post was edited on 8/30/20 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19820 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:13 pm to
I have no issue with him opting out
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:20 pm to
Wouldn’t you have rather made 30 mil and blown through it than never made 30 mil at all? And while I agree with you, my college education was the best investment I ever made, and even I don’t handle 100% of my finances. I have a guy that’s like fricking rain man that plays the stocks for me that allows me a good bit of frick off money. And I graduated with a business degree! You’re naive if you think these kids are truly coming to LSU to play school.
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:20 pm to
Welcome to tRant, baby boy.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:24 pm to
That’s a straw man, I know they’re coming to get to the NFL but the NFL is business and if they want to use the opportunity to lift their families they should be ready for the off field part of it too. It’s really not debatable, the most wealthy NFL players in history are 4-5 year guys, and the biggest failures are early entry guys, that’s just a fact. The fearful scenarios you’re suggesting almost never happen but are still used as the reasoning which tells you a lot.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35313 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 6:32 pm to
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So completing an education, which would reduce the amount of outside help you’d have to pay to manage finances you cant on your own for lack of education, isn’t the better career move than a quick one year cash grab?


Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:08 pm to
True, but a lot of these guys come from poor families. Why should chase have to play this year for nothing while his family is scrapping to get by when he can just sign with an agent and get a hefty advance?

I understand what you’re saying and I don’t even completely disagree with you. I’m just explaining that most of the high end college football players do not think like you do.
Posted by BassMan63
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Aug 2007
774 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:12 pm to
Let him go. LSU has some great new receivers and they will step up. Have faith.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1929 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:15 pm to
Agents speaking to players before eligible to enter as Pros ought to be illegal. There is ample time for that sort of discussion between season's end and draft.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:18 pm to
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It’s really not debatable, the most wealthy NFL players in history are 4-5 year guys, and the biggest failures are early entry guys, that’s just a fact.


Oof. The vast majority of NFL guys in NFL history have been 4-5 year guys, so yeah, it would make sense there would be more of them successful overall.

And how are you defining failures? Career earnings?

and the NFL sets all of these guys up with financial help/assistance

the ones that lose their money, would have still lost that money with the extra year of "invaluable" education

Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:25 pm to
The top WR Chosen in the Draft never got $30 million this past draft.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

True, but a lot of these guys come from poor families. Why should chase have to play this year for nothing while his family is scrapping to get by when he can just sign with an agent and get a hefty advance?

So this will be the new normal? Have a great year then opt out? Arik Gilbert has a great freshman season and Agents pay him for two years?
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12871 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:46 pm to
The NFL looks for reasons to not draft a player. He’s the top receiver now but he won’t be after some guy has huge numbers this season. You can guarantee other agents will start the rumor that he was just a system WR and only put up huge numbers because of Burrow last year. Others are going to say he isn’t a competitor since he didn’t want to play. Not playing this year may well hurt his draft stock.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112312 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:48 pm to
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The NFL looks for reasons to not draft a player. He’s the top receiver now but he won’t be after some guy has huge numbers this season. You can guarantee other agents will start the rumor that he was just a system WR and only put up huge numbers because of Burrow last year. Others are going to say he isn’t a competitor since he didn’t want to play. Not playing this year may well hurt his draft stock.



You guys realize the Carolina Panthers currently employ Joe Brady and they will probably suck right (or atleast be a middling team)

There’s not really a situation where he falls further than where ever the Panthers are drafting

Stop trying to sell the fantasy of Chase losing everything because he made this decision. It’s not gonna happen
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:49 pm to
No you’re putting words in my mouth and twisting what I said. Almost half of the 10 most wealthy players ever played before the insane salary increases the last 10 years and failures mean top picks who ended up in tragedy or flat on their asses financially. And no the NFL has no retirement benefits to support these guys, Eric Dickerson has been leading this cause for years gaining no ground besides that’s totally irrelevant to managing money while being on salary in the league. On top of that this fantasy people push a pit injuries doesn’t really exist. Look at Jalen Smith, he had a catastrophic injury and is now a highly paid, MLB hell even Marcus Lattimore, who was never going to be a top pick, ended up getting a contract like the very few players in that position always do. The risk is practically non existent yet it’s treated as some kindve guarantee and has zero data to support it.
This post was edited on 8/30/20 at 7:55 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112312 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:49 pm to
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So this will be the new normal? Have a great year then opt out? Arik Gilbert has a great freshman season and Agents pay him for two years?




If that’s what he thinks is the best decision for him. It’s likely not.

This is a very rare situation with a number of specific factors that we’ve never seen before, including a number of conferences cancelling the season.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 7:53 pm to
It doesn’t bother me that he’s leaving. I don’t want a player who doesn’t wanna be here anyway but I find it silly that fans use a made up boogeyman to defend his decision that’s all.
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