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re: Why would a depth limited team like LSU start an ACE against a lower seeded team?

Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:13 am to
Posted by FredbullTN
Houston
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:13 am to
I think you are asking the wrong question. The question isn’t does LSU pitch off. The question is does UNC pitch off? Can they beat Long Island with their #3 and save 1&2?

I dunno enough about their pitching staff or bullpen, but it’s an interesting argument. Their game 1 is essentially a low level mid week game and they would still have plenty of pitching to go through the losers bracket if they for some reason don’t win.

In the end I don’t think they do, but since we are tossing around hypotheticals I figured I would throw a wrinkle in for yall
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:28 am to
Kinda crazy that you all have gone from “lsu won’t make a regional” to lsu should save their best pitchers for games that may or may not happen vs UNC
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3669 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:34 am to
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Kinda crazy that you all have gone from “lsu won’t make a regional” to lsu should save their best pitchers for games that may or may not happen vs UNC


I wasn’t in that first camp, but the two viewpoints aren’t necessarily contradictory. In fact, they are logically connected. LSU has not been on UNC’s level for most of the season. They need to be at their absolute best to beat them twice. Having Jump and Holman available against them gives them the best chance to do that. That requires a huge gamble against Wofford, but that may be their best option.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:37 am to
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I'm also not claiming to be a baseball expert, I'm most definitely not.


Thanks Captain obvious.

Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:39 am to
Last year nobody but Skenes pitched against Tulane and LSU had everybody available for 2 games against Oregon State. I don’t think Jump will give you 9 but he should give you enough that you don’t have to use the top 3 or 4 guys behind the 2 starters. It worked in 23 but it didn’t work in 22 @ S. Miss because Hilliard got rocked and only gave you 2 2/3’s.
Posted by Rising
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:48 am to
Because if you fall into the LOSERS bracket dingus it's OVER
Posted by Roux22
Member since Jan 2023
597 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:49 am to
Yes it was against lower competition, but Wofford is at the top in nearly every offensive statistic.

On the post season you never. Ever. Sandbag.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:57 am to
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They need to be at their absolute best to beat them twice. Having Jump and Holman available against them gives them the best chance to do that.


You can’t potentially go home 0-2 without one of these 2 pitchers starting a game. This will not even be a consideration, especially when you consider Jay started Skenes against a 4 seed last season.

LSU is going to play confident as if they were the #1 seed again. And hope their best beats UNCs best if they have to play twice.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:08 am to
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How does using your day 3 pitching lineup on day 1 hurt your bullpen?


Do you really need an explanation of how Jump going 7 versus Ack giving you 3 saves the bullpen?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
12732 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:11 am to
I would say we have 1A and 1B in Jump and Holman. Starting either is fine.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:11 am to
One of Bertman's golden rules. Do whatever you can to win the first two games. Are you going to question the GOAT.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:14 am to
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It’s better to deplete the pen on Friday than on Sunday.


So in your mind it's better to go Ack -3, Herring -3 some combination of Guidry, Ullola, Little the remaining 3 in game 1, over Jump giving you 6-7 and maybe having a big enough lead to save some arms going into Saturday and Sunday?

quote:

More than likely LSU needs to go 3-0 to win the regional.


I don't agree with this mindset, but at least now I can understand why you make some of the cases you are making. I thinking going 2-0 is a must. But i like our chances in the championship if somebody has to beat us twice.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
21450 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:17 am to
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But that's why I mentioned prepare your ace to take over if it seems your bullpen is struggling.


Neither of them have come out of the bullpen to pitch this season. But you're saying let's have them ready to come in in the 2nd inning if things get dicey. Why not just start them if that's the case?

Also, Wofford loves to steal bases. I'd rather a pitcher on the mound that is going to limit their baserunners as much as possible.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:19 am to
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One of Bertman's golden rules. Do whatever you can to win the first two games. Are you going to question the GOAT


Why would me saying Jump and Holman need to throw the first two games equal not doing whatever you can to win the first two games?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39147 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:30 pm to
We can’t afford to lose game 1 because of those depth issues. Wofford hits.
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:32 pm to
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I understand alot of people have beating this topic to death. I'm also not claiming to be a baseball expert, I'm most definitely not.


You answered your own question - to expand you can’t assume a win in game one it’s that simple
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Why would a depth limited team like LSU start an ACE against a lower seeded team?


…with a national seed in the regional where you are an underdog.

I agree.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:40 pm to
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If we go 2-0 then our Sunday guys would be going against whichever teams midweek guys


What is the ERA on Sunday in the SEC? UNC is going to be much better than the average SEC team.

Is that a winning strategy?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:40 pm to
u cannot be this dumb

or can u ?

use ur brain and think kid
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
18348 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:49 pm to
Cant risk falling and going into the loser bracket
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