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Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:21 am to Placebeaux
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NONE OF THEM WANTED THE JOB
You poor ignorant soul. Alleva wouldn't know if anyone wanted the job because his list consisted of exactly 1 name. Herman. After that he panicked and hired O because he was there. That's it. It's hard to know if anyone else wanted the job if you don't even attempt to gauge interest in the first place.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:23 am to Spec1
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He had a season and a half. Has not been overly impressive! Hired an o coordinator he could not get along with and had a mediocre recruiting class (his strength)!
1 It was gonna take les miles’ replacement longer than a year and a half to bring lsu out of the pit of misery
2 canada is an egotistical shithead and O didn’t waste any time addressing that issue
3 those 4-5 transfers who became eligible this year are pretty damn good and are part of the recruiting. Kids weren’t gonna be coming here until they saw that lsu was back to what it was years ago. And what have the previous classes done as a whole?! ....a whole lotta unimpressive and mediocre production.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:24 am to NoGeaux
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If his name were not Orgeron you wouldn’t either.
This is why I think I've gone insane when having these discussions.
The idea that LSU fans would have sat back and allowed their beloved program to be saddled with a guy who had a career head coaching record of 10-25 at a time when they would be replacing a man who had won a NC and played for a second who himself had replaced a guy who won LSU's first NC in 40+ years and rebuilt our program is impossible to imagine. Were his name Mike Smith from Idaho, this shite could have NEVER EVER happened. LSU fan reaction would have made what happened at Tennessee look like a support rally. People would have fire bombed the AD's office had he tried that here.
But, he name ISN'T Smith, he's not from Idaho and the talking points were he's a local boy who wants his dream job.
And suddenly LSU fans thought it was a great idea...
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:27 am to BayouFann
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It was gonna take les miles’ replacement longer than a year and a half to bring lsu out of the pit of misery
Hyperbole much? Even if the 247 ranking of talent at 6 in the country was a bit off, it still wasn't any kind of rebuild.
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canada is an egotistical shithead and O didn’t waste any time addressing that issue
Properly vetting him would have negated that problem in the first place.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:28 am to BayouFann
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bring lsu out of the pit of misery
please
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2 canada is an egotistical shithead
damn Les for not only hiring him but making him the highest paid OC in the country...Oh wait....
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Kids weren’t gonna be coming here
you're just lying right now, 2014, 2015, and 2016 were all top 5 classes. Recruiting had not fallen off, cut the bullshite.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:29 am to BayouFann
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It was gonna take les miles’ replacement longer than a year and a half to bring lsu out of the pit of misery
That's not what 0 said.
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2 canada is an egotistical shithead and O didn’t waste any time addressing that issue
Who hand picked Canada again?
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3 those 4-5 transfers who became eligible this year are pretty damn good and are part of the recruiting. Kids weren’t gonna be coming here until they saw that lsu was back to what it was years ago. And what have the previous classes done as a whole?! ....a whole lotta unimpressive and mediocre production.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:31 am to New Boy
Hate is in vogue right now. it used to be "outraged" and generally spoken by liberals. hate is the new neo con lexicon and it is freely espoused by LSU fans (a segment of) who hate ed orgeron, hate joe alleva, hate steve ensminger, hate paul maineri, who hate alexander king and who hate others in more minor capacities.
many of these haters feel entitled and think they know it all. they are still mad at the way the coaching search was conducted (even tho they don't really know what happened but love to embrace their own narratives on the subject) and the fact we ended up with coach that had a terrible resume'. because of this, LSU football is "doomed" and everything this coach does is wrong. they are 100% close minded.
I really wanted Fisher as our head coach. I kinda, sorta wanted Herman but was skeptical. however, even tho i'm older I have a much broader and open mind than most. I have learned to accept things when they are already done and open my mind to the future. I like a lot of what I see with Orgeron and I do not think Cajuns are universally dumb (as many on here have espoused).
without question Orgeron has strengthened this football team since his being named HC. I do not know if that will translate into the success we all want which is competing for titles. I am willing to give the man a chance. if he doesn't do it he should leave the cupboard in much better shape than his predecessor did.
many of these haters feel entitled and think they know it all. they are still mad at the way the coaching search was conducted (even tho they don't really know what happened but love to embrace their own narratives on the subject) and the fact we ended up with coach that had a terrible resume'. because of this, LSU football is "doomed" and everything this coach does is wrong. they are 100% close minded.
I really wanted Fisher as our head coach. I kinda, sorta wanted Herman but was skeptical. however, even tho i'm older I have a much broader and open mind than most. I have learned to accept things when they are already done and open my mind to the future. I like a lot of what I see with Orgeron and I do not think Cajuns are universally dumb (as many on here have espoused).
without question Orgeron has strengthened this football team since his being named HC. I do not know if that will translate into the success we all want which is competing for titles. I am willing to give the man a chance. if he doesn't do it he should leave the cupboard in much better shape than his predecessor did.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:32 am to LSU GrandDad
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without question Orgeron has strengthened this football team since his being named HC.
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LSU GrandDad
Typical.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:32 am to Placebeaux
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looks like it
So you are admitting right here and now that Auburn was a better team than Bama and thus deserved the National Championship over Bama? Ok. We all already knew that but thanks for being one of the few Gumps that can admit it.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:33 am to TigerLunatik
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it still wasn't any kind of rebuild.
Just a talking point designed to move the goal posts.
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Properly vetting him would have negated that problem in the first place.
One of my favorites new complaints...that Orgeron is blameless for Canada. For frick's sake, any retail job does more calling for references than LSU seems to have done when hiring the OC if Canada showing up and being prickly was some major news to them. In addition, it was clear from the get go that Orgeron decided he did not like the style of offense Canada was attempting to run, meaning Orgeron had no fricking clue who he hired or he backed out of wanting to run it after he hired a man with a very specific offense.
Either way, That's on Orgeron. and...before it gets mentioned, the reason we are now breaking in a new OC in what amounts to nearly Year 3 of Orgeron's time at LSU is because he hired a guy he didn't vet as one of his first major hires only to dump him costing LSU more money to hire the TE's coach already on staff. He doesn't get to ask for patience when he's the reason we don't have continuity.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:33 am to New Boy
He's not Tom Herman
He's not Jimbo Fisher
He's not SABAN
Also had a terrible record when he was head coach of Ole Miss
First three reasons are the most important
He's not Jimbo Fisher
He's not SABAN
Also had a terrible record when he was head coach of Ole Miss
First three reasons are the most important
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:34 am to New Boy
LSU became the laughing stock of the SEC when O was hired. He needs to kill it this year. It sucks when vandy has a more qualified coach than LSU
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:35 am to LSU GrandDad
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Hate is in vogue right now. it used to be "outraged" and generally spoken by liberals. hate is the new neo con lexicon and it is freely espoused by LSU fans
You know what IS in vogue now...the inability to separate one's politics from every other facet of their life.
Speaking of being outraged...that kind of worldview sounds fricking miserable.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:37 am to BayouFann
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1 It was gonna take les miles’ replacement longer than a year and a half to bring lsu out of the pit of misery
Soooo, at the very least, O and Alleva lied that this would be a seemless transition and LSU would be back to competing for championships immediately?
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2 canada is an egotistical shithead and O didn’t waste any time addressing that issue
O hired the man without doing any background work. Who's fault is that? He tried to get Kiffin and failed so he panicked and picked the big name without even researching him.
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3 those 4-5 transfers who became eligible this year are pretty damn good and are part of the recruiting. Kids weren’t gonna be coming here until they saw that lsu was back to what it was years ago. And what have the previous classes done as a whole?! ....a whole lotta unimpressive and mediocre production.
The previous classes have resulted in LSU having the most active player on NFL rosters than any other school in the country. But hey, we weren't talented or anything.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:40 am to The Pirate King
quote:How does wanting LSU football to maximize our potential make me spoiled?
One 9-4 season did you in huh? Talk about spoiled fans...
We have a wealth of assets at our disposal that few other programs have, and 9-4 is unacceptable (particularly when that includes a historically bad loss to MSU and a historic loss to Troy).
Either you want LSU football to consistently be in the mix for championships, or you're happy with 9-4 seasons.
I'm the former.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:40 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:How do you know this?? It's all unproven.
without question Orgeron has strengthened this football team since his being named HC
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:41 am to BayouFann
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1 It was gonna take les miles’ replacement longer than a year and a half to bring lsu out of the pit of misery
Then why were people saying that all needed to be done for LSU to get back to winning championships was for Miles to be eliminated from the picture?
Not one person said anything about a rebuild prior to Miles being fired.
And if you need a rebuild, who the hell would hire Orgeron for that? We'd be better off getting Lou Holtz from his retirement home.
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2 canada is an egotistical shithead and O didn’t waste any time addressing that issue
An issue that was 100% Orgeron's fault for creating. He wasted time by hiring him in the first place not knowing the first thing about him.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:43 am to Goldrush25
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Not one person said anything about a rebuild prior to Miles being fired.
It was always "any idiot can win 10 games at LSU!!!!" and "LSU recruits itself."
Funny that none of those people are saying that anymore since we've seemed to find the one idiot that can't.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:44 am to LSU GrandDad
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I do not think Cajuns are universally dumb (as many on here have espoused).
As much as I enjoy picking apart your insane screeds, I'm only going to point out how asinine this sentence is.
I don't think Cajuns are dumb, even though Cajuns with an incredibly thick accept may SOUND dumb, even to those of us who are from here and grew up in the River Parishes. Or, to people like myself who have actually lived in LA longer than had Ed Orgeron himself. It Is possible to be from here and NOT sound like you just stepped off a shrimp boat...not that there's anything wrong with that, obviously.
I SPECIFICALLY think Ed Orgeron IS dumb. I don't think he's a smart man, in most any way you want to quantify that. The fact that's he also Cajun is not WHY he's dumb.
I happened to find him VERY typical of Louisiana though, in that he's now become highly successful based largely on who he knows and not based on any specific personal skill set that would warrant the position he now holds.
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