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re: Why so much faith in Woodward?

Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by BDtiger5
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:31 pm to
I didn’t know people from thibodeaux were this fricking stupid.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:32 pm to
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oh look, this stupid talking point again



refute it


You had to give O a raise after 2019, every AD would have done it, using it as knock on Woodward is a cheap/lazy shot using 2020 hindsight
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:32 pm to
I trust Woody will see the big picture and do whats best the next 5-10 years. Not just tomorrow or winning the Press Conference
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:32 pm to
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ugh, yeah. Are you stupid or something?

eta: and LOL if you think Ed is getting that full buyout. I know you're from Thibodaux and this is all hard for you to comprehend..



You don't have to guarantee shite. And I'm sorry you worship at the altar of SW that has yielded 0 championships of consequence at any of his stops. No need to take shots at Thibodaux about it though
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:33 pm to
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I didn’t know people from thibodeaux were this fricking stupid.




Smart enough to spell it correctly.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:33 pm to
Let me see, should I trust a proven AD with a track record that involves multiple big-time coaching hires, or should we trust someone with no clue that posts word vomit on the internet.

This is a difficult choice.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27407 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:34 pm to
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You don't have to guarantee shite. And I'm sorry you worship at the altar of SW that has yielded 0 championships of consequence at any of his stops. No need to take shots at Thibodaux about it though


Tell the class what you think guarantee means in this context.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:35 pm to
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You don't have to guarantee shite.


if that's what other coaches are getting, yes you do. Its stupid buts its not on Woodward

quote:

And I'm sorry you worship at the altar of SW that has yielded 0 championships of consequence at any of his stops


Jesus Christ
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Tell the class what you think guarantee means in this context.



that they owe him 70% of the money left on the contract (unless they find a way to find cause outside of performance).

It literally means if he sucks and they can him, they've agreed to pay 70% of his contract. Is this not a guarantee?

Use this in terms of the money we were still paying Les.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:38 pm to
hew was forced into a situation where he had to give the NC winning coach a raise, its not like it was his idea and he had a choice about it, its SOP for any AD in that spot
Posted by Tigerfan1452
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:42 pm to
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You don't have to guarantee shite.


no coach is coming without a guarantee that he's getting paid unless it's for cause, dumb frick.

quote:

And I'm sorry you worship at the altar of SW that has yielded 0 championships of consequence at any of his stops


I don't "worship at the altar of SW" but he's hired Chris Petersen, Jimbo Fisher, Buzz Williams, and Kim Mulkey. He makes good hires.

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No need to take shots at Thibodaux about it though



You're right. it's a big enough shithole as is.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:43 pm to
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that they owe him 70% of the money left on the contract (unless they find a way to find cause outside of performance).

It literally means if he sucks and they can him, they've agreed to pay 70% of his contract. Is this not a guarantee?

Use this in terms of the money we were still paying Les.


O's contract is not unusual for coaches at other big P5 schools especially coming off a year like 2019


I will still never understand why people get so hung on the money, like its coming out of your pocket. If it doesn't impede getting rid of him who cares. A lot of it will most likely be privately raised funds anyway
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:43 pm to
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refute it




There is nothing to refute. Orgeron created a great team and got compensated for it. That’s the message you want to be sending to all potential coaches. Otherwise, why go to the meat grinder that is the SEC West, if you get to the pinnacle of the sport and have perhaps the best season ever and nothing changes for you financially? As long as they can afford the buyout, it sends a great message that LSU is committed to winning and will do whatever it takes. If they can’t afford the buyout and are stuck with a coach that is dragging down the program, then it’s a huge screw up.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4954 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:47 pm to
Have you ever had an original thought in your head? Mouth breather, he just won the national championship. The winning coach gets an extension and money. Are you really that fricking dumb or just purposely being a dumbass? Either way you should take a break and color in your coloring book.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4954 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:52 pm to
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You don't have to guarantee shite. And I'm sorry you worship at the altar of SW that has yielded 0 championships of consequence at any of his stops. No need to take shots at Thibodaux about it though


So 2019 did not happen? Take the L and unplug the keyboard, mouth breather.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:01 pm to
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So 2019 did not happen? Take the L and unplug the keyboard, mouth breather.



stop saying mouth breather if you can't follow the context clues of what i was saying.

woodward has never hired a coach that won a title in a major sport at the school at which he hired them.










I'll spell it out better next time, mouth breather
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:06 pm to
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So 2019 did not happen? Take the L and unplug the keyboard, mouth breather.



Imagine a mouth breather thinking this would be relevant anyway


He was hired 4 months before the season
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4954 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:11 pm to
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yielded 0 championships of consequence at any of his stops


That's not what you said, mouth breather. That may have been what you meant in your simple mind but, that is not what you typed out on your speak and spell keyboard.

Take the fn L boy and sitdown!
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20196 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:40 pm to
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Thib-a-doe Tiger


Yes Woodward bears some of the responsibility but at present, he is untouchable. Most fans cannot come to to grips with what it would mean if Woodward proves inept in this hire.

In his defense, most of the hires he's made that I'm familiar with have been solid to great. Mulkey was a great hire. None one bad.

But when you look at the picture today - Orgeron being the second (?) highest paid HC and then look at the performance on the field. Something's very, very amiss.

It's not that O didn't deserve a raise or an extension after '19, he did. It's the magnitude of those that are problematic. He basically doubled his salary (and totally disparate against his market value).

What we were counting on was for Woodward to be close enough to the program and have enough acumen to look below the surface as to why we were successful in '19 and temper O's contract accordingly. To be fair, Alleva is the way bigger factor in this.

No idea as to how O's buyout will factor into decision making. Some downplay as it's not 'your' money or it's negligible. Maybe it is but it seems like a big chunk of change that could be used elsewhere.

Finally, some are concerned that unless we had given Ed his current contract, it would dissuade other coaches from coming here. This is fertilizer. LSU will be an upgrade for 99% of the prospects out there. Pay increase. Better program. And top 2-3 recruiting footprints in all CFB. They'll come.








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