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re: Why Pull a Starter Who is Throwing a No-Hitter
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:57 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:57 pm to tiggerthetooth
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22 year olds get Tommy John quite often these days. Educate yourself.
The odds of Skenes not getting Tommy John at some point is low. Everyone gets it nowadays. It’s not a big deal. We’ve got outfielders getting it now.
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:04 pm to Tenntig
His arm is worth way more than a 9 inning shutout!
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:09 pm to tigerfoot
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since 77. So don’t tell me a thing about em. You couldn’t name 20 players for Pitt if I gave you google
Wrong!!
Brian Giles
Jason Kendall
Barry
Clemente
Stargell
Jason Bay
Josh Bell
Skenes
Adam Laroche
O’Neill Cruz
McCutchen (twice)
BR
Mitch Keller
Gerrit Cole (ppl forget)
Charlie Morton (ppl also forget)
Jared Jones
Marte
Adam Laroche
Edit: Right. 17 or however many that is was the best I could do. Was a fun test though.
Also, if you are really Pirates fan and have been since 77, then I apologize for my assumption and for the years of turmoil. Mainly because after I finished listing I hit the google machine, and there are not many more memorable significant players that had extended careers for them in recent (30 years) history. Also, and mostly, because they have moved on from too many superstars before they became superstars.
Edit: Shite, forgot the most important one, fellow Cenla boy, Warren Morris.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:32 pm to LSUFAN227
I mean you really missed Bonilla, Van Slyke, Drabel, Welch, Cole, Archer, both LaRoches played for the Pirates, Charlie Hayes and his son Ke'Ryan, Bryan Reynolds, Neil Walker, etc... I mean it was only a few years ago the Pirates had what was one of the best outfields in baseball with Marte, Andrew, Polanco
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:21 pm to LSUFAN227
quote:you have no idea. When you can remember Stargell, Parker, Robinson, , Garner,, taveras. Blyleven, Candy, Tekulve from the earliest days of your fandom you have earned your Pirate stripes
Also, if you are really Pirates fan and have been since 77, then I apologize for my assumption and for the years of turmoil.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:10 pm to Tenntig
He’s a big time investment. That’s why
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:43 pm to Geaux Guy
Bingo, it’s not the 1970’s anymore
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:59 pm to Tenntig
If it was a playoff game, he would've kept pitching. They got Skenes on sale 4-5yrs 20mil. NYY/Dodgers would pay 30m just to have him for the rest of this season.
No hitter and he would've gotten a huge argument point for CY.
No hitter and he would've gotten a huge argument point for CY.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:49 pm to oldskule
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His arm is worth way more than a 9 inning shutout!
Bingo we have a winner.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:55 pm to Tenntig
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Paul Shenes
Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:06 am to Tenntig
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Ryan was no outlier. . . Ryan thew his seventh no-hitter at the age of 44 and was in the majors for 27 years.
Ryan is the oldest to ever throw a no-hitter x2 and played longer than anyone since 1900. In many respects you are correct. He wasn't the only by any stretch to pitch 20+ CGs/season.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:50 am to Tenntig
Because he’s the manager and you’re not. Baseball is a team sport and he has a bullpen.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:53 am to zoom
Apparently you don’t watch much baseball.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:06 am to Lester Earl
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Have you watched baseball since?
Yes - the hitters are FAR FAR worse and the pitching is watered down.
Clowns think pitching and hitting is better never saw Pete Rose, Tony Gwynn, Rod Carew, Dave Winfield, and many others play.
It’s a shite game in comparison.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:27 am to Tiger1988
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Yes - the hitters are FAR FAR worse and the pitching is watered down.
The hitting is “worse” because the pitching is WAY better
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 7:31 am
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:29 am to Lester Earl
If you were the Orioles last night, you saw:
Gerrit Cole for 6 innings
-98 FB
-91 cutter
-84 CB 3000rpm
-89 slider
7ip Tommy Kahnle
-94 FB
-87CH (.159BA, 44% whiff)
8ip Luke Weaver
-97FB
-92 cutter
-88 CH
9IP Clay Holmes
-97 sinker
-86 slider
- 82 sweeper
But yea, Pete Rose saw pitching like this all the time
Gerrit Cole for 6 innings
-98 FB
-91 cutter
-84 CB 3000rpm
-89 slider
7ip Tommy Kahnle
-94 FB
-87CH (.159BA, 44% whiff)
8ip Luke Weaver
-97FB
-92 cutter
-88 CH
9IP Clay Holmes
-97 sinker
-86 slider
- 82 sweeper
But yea, Pete Rose saw pitching like this all the time
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:32 am to Tenntig
They don't want to injure their ace. His long term health and franchise wins are much more important than a potential personal achievement.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:34 am to Lester Earl
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The hitting is “worse” because the pitching is WAY better
How old are you? Really? Do you honestly believe pitching is way better? Did you watch Guidry pitch in 78? Why don’t you actually become a student of the game and just do a little research instead of thinking everything started in the 2020’s. Randy Johnson for example threw every bit as hard as Skenes maybe harder. He was consistently at 98-99 on guns that were 3 mph slower. So Johnson who pitched in the 90’s against Bonds, Griffey Jr and many others wasn’t as good? How about Greg Maddux or Glavine or Smoltz or Clemens or.. that’s the 90’s. Palmer, Ryan, on and on and on all were better than anyone pitching today. Why they are HOFs. Maybe Ohtani is about as close to those caliber pitchers.
The spin rate shite is about tact and now their asses are paying for it as soon as MLB started checking for it.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:36 am to Tenntig
Quick, easy answer: That choice is only looking short term. Team goals are typically long term still at this point in the year.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:40 am to Tiger1988
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Do you honestly believe pitching is way better? Did you watch Guidry pitch in 78?
Do you think it is harder to hit Ron Guidry the 4th time you see him in a game, or do you think its harder to hit 4 different guys with different out pitches that throw 98mph in a game?
Pretty easy question.
I mean, I have the stats right here. The batting average against Ron Guidry for his career:
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1st time through order, batters hit .234 & slugged .379
4th Time through the order, batters hit .271 & slugged .445
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