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re: Why not cap the amount an athlete can receive for their "likeness"
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:55 pm to bayoubengal2007
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:55 pm to bayoubengal2007
I have a question about the law California just passed.
If I read it correctly the universities were against it. Can the universities prohibit the law? Like gun laws. There are places that don't allow people to have guns (even if they have a license to conceal) although it is legal to have them.
If I read it correctly the universities were against it. Can the universities prohibit the law? Like gun laws. There are places that don't allow people to have guns (even if they have a license to conceal) although it is legal to have them.
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:55 pm to bayoubengal2007
The players can set themselves up as a corporation, pay taxes on everything including the scholarship, sell their likeness, attempt to represent a business (car stealership, cookie company, beverage company, etc.), and do all of this outside of classes and practice and games. Hmmmmmm, interdasting! 
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:55 pm to The Hurricane
I know what it’s like to be a college athlete. The main complaint is not having time to work part time like every other student. By student athletes get plenty of perks and benefits. An extra $200-300 a week would go a long way tho.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:00 pm to 225Tyga
Opening the Pandora’s box of paying college athletes would have devastating effects on the game. It would be the end of college athletics. But without the ability have jobs and now days the time for a job there needs to be some sort of traceable team controlled account or allowance.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:01 pm to Madking
I agree this whole debate is aimed towards like 15 of the 450,000 college athletes.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:07 pm to 225Tyga
Not necessarily. The best players at each school could get paid to do local commercials. EA could bring back the NCAA games and each player on the game could get a share like they do with the Madden players. The players could get money off of jersey sales as well.
The big deals with the shoe companies would only apply to the select few though.
The big deals with the shoe companies would only apply to the select few though.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:09 pm to 225Tyga
Since you know what it’s like to be a student athlete, what’s your thoughts on schools selling specific jerseys of their star athletes? Should the athlete be getting a cut of it? I haven’t been in the team shop this fall, but I imagine they’re selling a lot of No.9 jerseys and it will probably be the same next year with No. 1, 6, 15.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:10 pm to TigerLunatik
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The big deals with the shoe companies would only apply to the select few though.
Do you think shoe companies would be off limits because it be conflict of interest with their schools uniform supplier?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:12 pm to bayoubengal2007
Bc this is America our very foundation is built on capitalism. Theres no cap on companies making billions like the NCAA.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:13 pm to bayoubengal2007
Because this is America.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:13 pm to The Hurricane
No clue how that would work. Maybe they come out with a special Burrow edition for example that the player can get. Or if they use the player's likeness on a shirt the player gets a cut.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:15 pm to 225Tyga
The entire financial structure would have to be overhauled completely. You’d have to allow agents into to fold, you’d also be allowing outside influence from companies who can use money to influence players in any way imaginable, you’d have to install a cap which would likely lead to smaller rosters along with dozens of other problems. What would likely end up happening is these “teams” would be separated entirely from the university and only have some silly sponsored name recognition connection. You’d in effect have a minor league football organization rather than what we know as college football. It’s really not a practical idea but you could still compensate these players for using their likeness in some way that doesn’t involve alienating them from team or creating an exclusive product company to player connection.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:18 pm to TigerLunatik
Foreign option is Canada. And “forfeiting” a chance at a payday? How is that even relevant? That’s not the NCAA’s responsibility.
And why should a private organization be made to violate its own rules?
And why should a private organization be made to violate its own rules?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:18 pm to TigerLunatik
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Because there isn't an alternative in their field.
So?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:20 pm to TigerLunatik
I’d be all for allowing athletes to make money off their jersey sales, but wonder how it would work for non revenue generating sports. Schools wouldn’t be keeping inventory which would cause conflict.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:20 pm to The Hurricane
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what’s your thoughts on schools selling specific jerseys of their star athletes?
I’m all for it.
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Should the athlete be getting a cut of it?
No.
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I imagine they’re selling a lot of No.9 jerseys and it will probably be the same next year with No. 1, 6, 15
Probably so, I bet they are selling more of the players jerseys here than that would be had he gone to say, Cincinnati or somewhere else that has less national attention. Why not give a cut to the WRs? Or the OL? Or the OC? Oh because the OC is already getting paid and because the OL isn’t star worthy and they don’t do that with jerseys sales in the NFL either I guess.
Do not risk damaging the integrity and the “innocence” of college sports. Keep these kids on the ground. Their time will come.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:23 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Foreign option is Canada. And “forfeiting” a chance at a payday? How is that even relevant? That’s not the NCAA’s responsibility.
Because the comment I responded to was choosing enter into a contract with the NCAA was as American as it gets. Choosing an option outside of America can't be American.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:23 pm to 225Tyga
If their names aren’t on the jersey then why do they deserve the money from it? I mean I have a #7 jersey from the early 90s because it was my number not because of Patrick Peterson or Honey Badger.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:25 pm to The Hurricane
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Schools wouldn’t be keeping inventory which would cause conflict.
My guess is that would fall under supply and demand. That part is way above my pay grade.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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What would you consider to be an alternative?
No field has endless options. And certain options are always better than others.
If there were a market to pay 18 year old football players, better options would exist. For now, the are multiple arena, foreign and semi-pro leagues in North America alone.
But, they want the benefit of what the NCAA brings to the table too.
That's the dirty little secret. They want to piggyback on the NCAA without agreeing to play within the NCAA rules.
Supporters conflate revenue with profit either because they are economically illiterate or because they are dishonest. They ignore that the reason there is no other league is because nobody wants it. Many leagues have tried. All have failed. They point to "unfairness" while ignoring that the agreement that players make is completely voluntary AND ONLY CONTROLS THE PLAYER'S ELIGIBILITY WITHIN THE NCAA. Then they pretend that the players' likeness is valuable ignoring that the only reason people will sign these players up for endorsements is because they are playing within the NCAA. This is evidenced by the fact that any player at any time can decide to give up his eligibility and sell his likeness. The problem is that it's not valuable.
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