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re: Why isn't Kelly getting more criticism for end of game clock management?
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:53 pm to Lou Pai
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:53 pm to Lou Pai
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Why isn't Kelly getting more criticism for end of game clock management?
Because we handled the clock fine.
Score and leave little to no time on clock… we did exactly what we needed to do.
You’re reaching if you think that was clock mismanagement. Because it wasn’t.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:59 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Just because we’ve seen worse doesn’t mean we have to accept bad decisions without criticism
I’m not doing that. I agreed with running the clock down. My whole point is that it wasn’t a colossal frick up like we’ve seen at LSU and other places.
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That would be even more concerning
Not really. Coaches screw things up all the time, even great ones. Andy Reid has multiple super bowls and is notoriously bad with the clock. It happens.
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Maybe not with the clock but his game management in the first quarter vs FSU going for it in 4th rather taking the easy 3 was very questionable
Different discussion
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
5-seconds and a squib kick?
I can live with that
I can live with that
Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:09 pm to burreauxxx
It was actually near-perfect clock management.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:26 pm to JPLSU1981
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It was actually near-perfect clock management.
Lmao no it wasn’t. It was incredibly idiotic. I get taking the first timeout on 1st and goal to do some simple math, but after that they should have been in victory formation to kneel out the clock. Taking the TO after 2nd and goal was Les Miles like idiotic. Why risk Daniels tripping or a bad snap to throw the ball out of the end zone to burn a few more seconds?
They easily could have kicked with 2 seconds left
Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:48 pm to Tiger Phil
Well, one I remember was LSU Vs Kentucky- called the Bluegrass Miracle.
We kicked the field goal with 7 or 8 seconds on the clock. If Les Miles was there as coach he would have lost the game. He never managed the clock and rarely knew time was running out. Remember Auburn Vs LSU 2007, we were behind and only needed a field goal to win he called for Flynn to throw a pass into end zone with about 12 - 15 seconds left on clock. Sideline coaches were hollering at Miles, time time was by running out, kick a field goal. Flynn threw a pass left end zone to Demetrius Byrd with an Auburn defender literally hanging all over his body. Flynn threw the perfect pass and Byrd was able to catch it with Auburn defensive player hanging onto Byrd’s whole body. A miraculous play. I was there, Tiger stadium was the loudest I had ever heard while inside stadium. Auburn I don’t believe had any time left, game over LSU wins. Thrilling win.
We kicked the field goal with 7 or 8 seconds on the clock. If Les Miles was there as coach he would have lost the game. He never managed the clock and rarely knew time was running out. Remember Auburn Vs LSU 2007, we were behind and only needed a field goal to win he called for Flynn to throw a pass into end zone with about 12 - 15 seconds left on clock. Sideline coaches were hollering at Miles, time time was by running out, kick a field goal. Flynn threw a pass left end zone to Demetrius Byrd with an Auburn defender literally hanging all over his body. Flynn threw the perfect pass and Byrd was able to catch it with Auburn defensive player hanging onto Byrd’s whole body. A miraculous play. I was there, Tiger stadium was the loudest I had ever heard while inside stadium. Auburn I don’t believe had any time left, game over LSU wins. Thrilling win.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:00 am to WaydownSouth
There was nothing “idiotic” about the final sequence. If that’s how you see it, I don’t know what to tell you… must suck for you watching games with that mindset.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:00 am to Lou Pai
probably because we won and it didn’t matter and they had like 4 seconds to throw a 70 yard TD
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:47 am to tygerphan
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clock. :59 left. 2nd down at the 4 - short run (takes longer than kneeling). Kelly lets the clock run down to 1 and calls 3rd TO. 11 seconds left.
You don’t call TO after the 2nd down run. You run another kneel down on 3rd down, then call TO with 2 secs left. Then kick walkoff FG.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:34 am to Lou Pai
Wasn't Les Miles level bad but wasn't great either
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:58 am to Lou Pai
BECAUSE WE WON...what is more important than that !
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:06 am to NorthTxLSU
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the fact that there was still time left on the clock at all after the field goal is pretty embarrassing for a D1 coach
This is a stupid nit picky take. Getting a field Goal with 5 seconds left is a very well executed time management on the last drive.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:18 am to JPLSU1981
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Because we handled the clock fine.
Score and leave little to no time on clock… we did exactly what we needed to do.
With a simple addition of intelligence to the decision-making, we could have left Arky with no time.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:19 am to burreauxxx
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5-seconds and a squib kick?
I can live with that
Why not leave them with 0 seconds left?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:20 am to JPLSU1981
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There was nothing “idiotic” about the final sequence
Uh, yes there was. Calling the final TO the way Kelly did was idiotic.
Leaving the ball on the wrong hash for our K was also idiotic.
He could have controlled both variables.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:21 am to fairweatherfans
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BECAUSE WE WON...what is more important than that !
Results-oriented thinking is how idiots on here defended Miles and Orgeron for years.
Process-oriented thinking is how Saban builds his teams.
Which has shown to be a better long-term strategy?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:22 am to IM_4_LSU
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Getting a field Goal with 5 seconds left is a very well executed time management on the last drive.

What would be better:
1. leaving them with 5 seconds and kicking from the wrong hash
2. leaving them with 0 seconds and kicking from the correct hash
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Forget it. It’s a futile battle. You are arguing with a bunch of morons. The collective football knowledge on this board has dropped drastically in the last few months.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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wrong hash
You don't know what the wrong hash is. Unless Ramos told you himself. I would also have thought the right hash was the preferred hash but some kickers prefer the left hash, so you cannot say what the correct or wrong hash is.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:57 am to IM_4_LSU
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You don't know what the wrong hash is. Unless Ramos told you himself. I would also have thought the right hash was the preferred hash but some kickers prefer the left hash, so you cannot say what the correct or wrong hash is.
Yes we can, we have about 90 examples of data to show us. (I’m guessing we have scored about 90 tds in the last two seasons)
When a team scores a td, the offense has the option to place the ball anywhere from hash to hash for the point after attempt. Damian Ramos has never in his two years at LSU asked to move the ball to a hash to kick the extra point. When kicking a very short field goal, the hash is a tough angle.
We kicked the final field goal from the same distance as an extra point. The ball should have been downed in the middle of the field for the easiest kick.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 7:58 am
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