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re: Why is LSU the only school that suspends it’s players for weed?

Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:57 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47859 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:57 pm to
“Morally”


When some people disagree with others by using this as a weapon that’s where we get into trouble. I disagree with you about the rule being silly but other than that you make solid pints. I think by using morality you paint the opposition as evil instead of simply incorrect and that makes compromise impossible. Just try to be sensible and fair.
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 12:09 am
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13020 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:59 pm to
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That’s because they understand the implications of mass legalization of all drugs to which weed legalization opens the door to.


What implications? Name them.

Do you know the amount of tax money that is wasted on “the war on drugs”? It’s insanity and has not managed to slow it down even remotely. If anything, it’s caused the reverse effect. It’s literally a hundreds of billions of dollars a year industry that, as it stands today, only people who are already very willing to break the law are benefiting from. Empires have been built off of the drug industry because of the amount of wealth some of these cartels have managed to make off of it. Why? Supply and fricking demand. You eliminate the legal issues behind these things and all of a sudden everyone is producing it. Mass production lowers the price. Lower price means these cartels no longer have a monopoly on the industry and are no longer acquiring mass fortunes off of it. You will never eliminate drugs. It’s never going to happen.

If you want to attenpt to go with health concerns over the issue being the reason for keeping them illegal, then why are you also not in favor of making alcohol, tobacco, or even shitty foods like McDonald’s that are all also very unhealthy for people? Where do you draw the line between “this is bad for you so you can’t have it” and “this is bad for you but we are still going to allow it”? If you are so concerned with people’s health, why are you not pushing for more subsidies to be given to organic food produce to lower the cost so more people can afford to eat healthier? Why are you not pushing to make tobacco and alcohol illegal? No, the reality is, you associate pot with something else you don’t like so that’s why you are so against it. Because it’s obvious you are not really concerned with any health issues over it.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12321 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:00 am to
For years our compliance department has been way too strict on our players, much stricter than other teams, and much stricter than necessary. Something should have been done about that a long time ago. And even with all that, we get in trouble over some drunken foolishness during a celebration that was meant to be a joke.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:02 am to
You watch too much fricking Netflix.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:03 am to
I agree with you here. Legalization aside, there really hasn’t been a good reason for the harshness of our compliance department relative to other programs.
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 12:04 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47859 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:03 am to
“You are really bad at this.“


The epitome of irony lol. No it isn’t the only reason and that’s been discussed at length here as well as the implications. You’re very ignorant and vitriolic in your responses to everyone. You and the OP do a disservice to the others echoing your side who are actually making real points and adding to the discussion.
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 12:22 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5738 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:12 am to
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On Sunday while you’re recovering? Probably slightly beneficial if anything.

Ah yes weed is such a wonderdrug and the greatest thing on earth, says the Rantard while he reaches for a bowl at 8 AM so he doesn’t have withdrawal panic attacks within 5 minutes of waking up every morning
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:19 am to
quote:

This seems like a slightly irrational response to someone not in favor of weed legalization

I thought smoking it relaxed you.

I haven’t smoked it
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 12:20 am
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1050 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 5:47 am to
Yes.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 6:07 am to
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I’m arguing that it’ll a college athlete can do whatever the frick they want as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody else or effect their performance. You disagree?


If you want to talk about edibles, that’s one thing. But ANYTHING you smoke is detrimental to your lungs, and that’s kind of important for an athlete. That is a medical and scientific fact. You may be able to withstand it better and recover faster in your 20s, but it’s still the truth.

As for all the arguments about pain management and relief, they are valid. But most of us who might be recovering from chemotherapy or have issues with chronic pain aren’t world-class athletes.

All these stupid arguments aside, it would be nice if our compliance department set rules and enforced the same as the rest of the conference.
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 6:15 am
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:05 am to
Why are you for a drug like alcohol that kills and destroys more than all other drugs combined? Is it because the federal government says it’s legal?
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 7:06 am
Posted by BayouBengals90
Nashville
Member since Jan 2009
1720 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:33 am to
Marijuana is a naturally growing organism. God literally provided it to the world.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39262 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:38 am to
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What reason can you logically give for it to be illegal yet rationalize alcohol, tobacco, McDonald’s, etc for being legal?

It’s very easy to rationalize the reason these should be legal when pot should not (assuming we accept that pot should not). Drugs cause breakdowns in judgement which leads to harm to innocent people, for example DUI. Tobacco and McDonalds (odd choice) do not.
Posted by BayouBengals90
Nashville
Member since Jan 2009
1720 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:40 am to
So what’s your argument for alcohol?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9345 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 8:04 am to
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First statement - false

How can “my logic is that I want everyone to be playing by the same rules” possibly be a false statement?
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Second- straw man

It’s not a straw man. It’s a legitimate example of LSU losing on-field production due to our policy, which is the entire point of the thread.
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Third statement- false and ironic

Uhh.. no, it’s not. The NFL does not randomly test for marijuana. They test all players once a year, before training camp, unless they are in “the program.”
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 8:59 am to
Marijuana increases blood flow, so can be good fore recovery. Also, it is an anti-inflammatory. Also anecdotal, Randy Moss said he used to smoke weed before every game, other greats have said the same but can’t remember off of the top of my head right now(probably due to the weed)
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 9:03 am to
Also marijuana is no longer against the rules in the NFL as of the new CBA that was recently passed.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 9:12 am to
You have no idea what you’re talking about, you can smoke weed like it’s going out of style every day for years and have little to no withdrawal quitting cold turkey. Look at Joe Rogan, he smokes like a chimney and every October he stops for the whole month. No problems. Can it be psychologically addicting? Yes, but so can video games
Posted by Nerd Destroyer
Member since Aug 2019
55 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:57 am to
And let’s not forget that LSU actually sells weed. Such hypocrites.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:30 am to
Summary of the dumbest things in this thread:
quote:

1) [on why LSU suspends for THC] SJW University is filled with a bunch of vaginas in administration

2) [on marijuana medicinal qualities] there’s other stuff you can take that won’t affect the lungs... Alcohol can kill pain too

3) My position is that if God made anything better than Gentleman Jack, He kept it up there with Him

4) I am in favor of marijuana legalization, but I’ve yet to hear a legitimate plan laid out as to how it’s accomplished without far reaching implications.

1) Liberals want to legalize. Kinda weird tbh because govt overreach used to be a pillar of conservatism.

2) The hypocrisy lmao. You don’t have to smoke it. Also, I don’t think any of you fully realize how much more clinically detrimental to your health alcohol is than marijuana — you haven’t compared the studies because you can’t differentiate dated populist propaganda from science/fact.

3) You could have at least aimed higher than Jack Daniels. Have you tried anything else?

4) Yea... like medicine, jobs, economic stimulus through regulated industry/reduction of black market activity, freedom... would be terrible.
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 11:52 am
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