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re: Why is LSU the only school that suspends it’s players for weed?
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:09 pm to Madking
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:09 pm to Madking
I have too and it never had any effect on me the next day. Of course I wasn't playing college football but I did work construction and played softball and basketball 3 to 5 times a week in my early to mid 20s.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:10 pm to Peepdip
You said you’re not arguing for it to be a remedy for pain and if that’s the case you have no argument as it’s the only quasi logical defense of it.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:13 pm to Madking
quote:I’m arguing that it’ll a college athlete can do whatever the frick they want as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody else or effect their performance. You disagree?
You said you’re not arguing for it to be a remedy for pain
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:17 pm to Peepdip
The problem is it does affect performance unquestionably and if it’s a team rule then no they don’t have a choice if they wanna play on that team. If it’s a normal college kid have at it, I’ve done more illegal substances than 99.9% of all humanity so ethically I have no issue with it.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:23 pm to Madking
quote:
And what does this have to do with that?
The title of the fricking thread is “Why is LSU the only school that suspends it’s players for weed?”
Excuse me for assuming you were actually addressing the topic at hand.
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You think allowing behavior that will impede them is putting them on a level playing field?
What do you think results in a bigger negative impact for the team:
1. The detrimental effects of marijuana use on Michael Divinity’s performance, or
2. Losing Michael Divinity for half of a season?
You don’t think these suspensions hurt the team? You don’t think it affects recruiting?
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If it’s really about football there’s no excuse for allowing it from a coach and team perspective.
Someone should tell the NFL. And Saban, for that matter. I’m sure they just don’t realize how much their policies are hurting them.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:27 pm to lostinbr
So your logic is if a guy is a good player there should be no rules? Yes that’s the more negative impact and for reference how did we do without divinity last year? Greatest season of alltime, yea I’d say it was worth having standards. And the NFL still punishes for weed despite the false assumption you’re making. They’ve just raised the threshold for violations.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:27 pm to Peepdip
Let's just put this to bed and move on. To say there are no benefits to Marijuana, that's just stupid. We all agree that in College sports it's not allowed, that's the way it is. Let's also talk about what some are going through with this Pandemic bullshite. This has caused depression and fatigue in some student/athletes. I'm not saying it’s right, but with stress, body/muscle rehab marijuana does work wonders. It's been proven time and time again so stop with it has no benefits.
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This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:30 pm to Madking
quote:It doesn’t affect them unquestionably, that’s just like.. his opinion man.
The problem is it does affect performance unquestionably and if it’s a team rule then no they don’t have a choice if they wanna play on that team
quote:I agree with this, but the point that OP is making is that the players shouldn’t get kicked off the team or suspended because of weed in the first place. That’s the issue.
and if it’s a team rule then no they don’t have a choice if they wanna play on that team.
The fact that they smoke anyways and risk getting kicked off the team is very dumb of them, but the main point is that it shouldn’t every come to that. It’s a silly rule
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:32 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I think it involves the LSU student code of ethics. Both LSU and FL are plagued by this. They are basically rather only 2 who really suspend the players. The theory is they can’t suspend regular student and punish them and allow the football players to get away with it. What it is is a rule that says if a student is guilty of certain things he can’t represent the university. The reason is smoking pot is a state crime. If State of LA legalizes it it would not be a proble..
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:33 pm to Madking
quote:No there should be rules. Just rules that make sense.
So your logic is if a guy is a good player there should be no rules?
1. No murdering people
2. No raping people
3. Make decent grades
4. Don’t take performance enhancing drugs
5. Be a decent citizen
6. Don’t miss practice
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:35 pm to Peepdip
Rules that make sense to you is what you mean.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:52 pm to Madking
quote:
So your logic is if a guy is a good player there should be no rules?
My logic is that everyone should be playing by the same rules.
quote:
Yes that’s the more negative impact and for reference how did we do without divinity last year?
So you’re saying LSU was better off without Divinity last year?
I don’t care if we went 50-0, Divinity made that defense better.
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And the NFL still punishes for weed despite the false assumption you’re making. They’ve just raised the threshold for violations.
You seem to know a lot about this. So surely you are aware that the NFL doesn’t do random testing for marijuana unless a player is already in the drug & alcohol intervention program.
LSU compliance probably has a better grasp of the performance impacts than them, though.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:07 pm to lostinbr
First statement - false
Second- straw man
Third statement- false and ironic
Take your politics to the poli board, your argument has nothing to do with football.
Second- straw man
Third statement- false and ironic
Take your politics to the poli board, your argument has nothing to do with football.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:08 pm to Madking
It is an extremely effective remedy for pain. What are you even talking about?
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:09 pm to H I McDunnough
I never said it wasn’t, another straw man from the pot head brigade.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:20 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Florida was well known for putting their players in casts while suspended for pot
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:33 pm to Madking
quote:Rules that make sense logically and morally.
Rules that make sense to you
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:45 pm to Peepdip
This seems like a slightly irrational response to someone not in favor of weed legalization
I thought smoking it relaxed you.
I thought smoking it relaxed you.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:45 pm to Madking
quote:
Another straw man. Did I say anything about legal or illegal? No I didn’t so maybe you can come up with a real argument to the actual point instead of making a false position to argue against.
That’s not even remotely close to what a “straw man” is. The basis for testing IS THE LEGALITY OF THE ISSUE. There is zero other reasoning behind testing for pot. They don’t test for alcohol or tobacco.
You are really bad at this.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:51 pm to J2thaROC
Anything you’re in favor of we should probably never be in favor of. You seem like a very shortsighted and emotionally driven person.
No offense.
I am in favor of marijuana legalization, but I’ve yet to hear a legitimate plan laid out as to how it’s accomplished without far reaching implications.
No offense.
I am in favor of marijuana legalization, but I’ve yet to hear a legitimate plan laid out as to how it’s accomplished without far reaching implications.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 11:52 pm
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