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re: Why is LSU the only school that suspends it’s players for weed?

Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:09 pm to
I have too and it never had any effect on me the next day. Of course I wasn't playing college football but I did work construction and played softball and basketball 3 to 5 times a week in my early to mid 20s.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47602 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:10 pm to
You said you’re not arguing for it to be a remedy for pain and if that’s the case you have no argument as it’s the only quasi logical defense of it.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:13 pm to
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You said you’re not arguing for it to be a remedy for pain
I’m arguing that it’ll a college athlete can do whatever the frick they want as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody else or effect their performance. You disagree?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47602 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:17 pm to
The problem is it does affect performance unquestionably and if it’s a team rule then no they don’t have a choice if they wanna play on that team. If it’s a normal college kid have at it, I’ve done more illegal substances than 99.9% of all humanity so ethically I have no issue with it.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9291 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:23 pm to
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And what does this have to do with that?

The title of the fricking thread is “Why is LSU the only school that suspends it’s players for weed?”

Excuse me for assuming you were actually addressing the topic at hand.
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You think allowing behavior that will impede them is putting them on a level playing field?

What do you think results in a bigger negative impact for the team:
1. The detrimental effects of marijuana use on Michael Divinity’s performance, or
2. Losing Michael Divinity for half of a season?

You don’t think these suspensions hurt the team? You don’t think it affects recruiting?
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If it’s really about football there’s no excuse for allowing it from a coach and team perspective.

Someone should tell the NFL. And Saban, for that matter. I’m sure they just don’t realize how much their policies are hurting them.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47602 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:27 pm to
So your logic is if a guy is a good player there should be no rules? Yes that’s the more negative impact and for reference how did we do without divinity last year? Greatest season of alltime, yea I’d say it was worth having standards. And the NFL still punishes for weed despite the false assumption you’re making. They’ve just raised the threshold for violations.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:30 pm
Posted by 4TheLoveLSU
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2019
2317 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:27 pm to
Let's just put this to bed and move on. To say there are no benefits to Marijuana, that's just stupid. We all agree that in College sports it's not allowed, that's the way it is. Let's also talk about what some are going through with this Pandemic bullshite. This has caused depression and fatigue in some student/athletes. I'm not saying it’s right, but with stress, body/muscle rehab marijuana does work wonders. It's been proven time and time again so stop with it has no benefits.
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This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:30 pm to
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The problem is it does affect performance unquestionably and if it’s a team rule then no they don’t have a choice if they wanna play on that team
It doesn’t affect them unquestionably, that’s just like.. his opinion man.
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and if it’s a team rule then no they don’t have a choice if they wanna play on that team.
I agree with this, but the point that OP is making is that the players shouldn’t get kicked off the team or suspended because of weed in the first place. That’s the issue.

The fact that they smoke anyways and risk getting kicked off the team is very dumb of them, but the main point is that it shouldn’t every come to that. It’s a silly rule
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:32 pm
Posted by eltigre2
The Woodlands, Tx
Member since Feb 2019
626 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:32 pm to
I think it involves the LSU student code of ethics. Both LSU and FL are plagued by this. They are basically rather only 2 who really suspend the players. The theory is they can’t suspend regular student and punish them and allow the football players to get away with it. What it is is a rule that says if a student is guilty of certain things he can’t represent the university. The reason is smoking pot is a state crime. If State of LA legalizes it it would not be a proble..
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:33 pm to
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So your logic is if a guy is a good player there should be no rules?
No there should be rules. Just rules that make sense.

1. No murdering people
2. No raping people
3. Make decent grades
4. Don’t take performance enhancing drugs
5. Be a decent citizen
6. Don’t miss practice
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47602 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:35 pm to
Rules that make sense to you is what you mean.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9291 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:52 pm to
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So your logic is if a guy is a good player there should be no rules?

My logic is that everyone should be playing by the same rules.
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Yes that’s the more negative impact and for reference how did we do without divinity last year?

So you’re saying LSU was better off without Divinity last year?

I don’t care if we went 50-0, Divinity made that defense better.
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And the NFL still punishes for weed despite the false assumption you’re making. They’ve just raised the threshold for violations.

You seem to know a lot about this. So surely you are aware that the NFL doesn’t do random testing for marijuana unless a player is already in the drug & alcohol intervention program.

LSU compliance probably has a better grasp of the performance impacts than them, though.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47602 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:07 pm to
First statement - false

Second- straw man

Third statement- false and ironic

Take your politics to the poli board, your argument has nothing to do with football.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 11:13 pm
Posted by H I McDunnough
Member since Apr 2020
439 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:08 pm to
It is an extremely effective remedy for pain. What are you even talking about?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47602 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:09 pm to
I never said it wasn’t, another straw man from the pot head brigade.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12189 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:20 pm to
Florida was well known for putting their players in casts while suspended for pot
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

Rules that make sense to you
Rules that make sense logically and morally.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:45 pm to
This seems like a slightly irrational response to someone not in favor of weed legalization

I thought smoking it relaxed you.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13001 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:45 pm to
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Another straw man. Did I say anything about legal or illegal? No I didn’t so maybe you can come up with a real argument to the actual point instead of making a false position to argue against.


That’s not even remotely close to what a “straw man” is. The basis for testing IS THE LEGALITY OF THE ISSUE. There is zero other reasoning behind testing for pot. They don’t test for alcohol or tobacco.

You are really bad at this.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:51 pm to
Anything you’re in favor of we should probably never be in favor of. You seem like a very shortsighted and emotionally driven person.

No offense.

I am in favor of marijuana legalization, but I’ve yet to hear a legitimate plan laid out as to how it’s accomplished without far reaching implications.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 11:52 pm
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