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re: Why does this say Ranaudo got a no-decision?

Posted on 5/31/09 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/31/09 at 9:31 pm to
This is unreal, the people who seem to not know how baseball works and think that Ranaudo got a no decision that is...
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Member since May 2007
37879 posts
Posted on 5/31/09 at 9:38 pm to
Everyone must have turned the radio off at the same time...Hanagriff came back after the commercial and corrected himself...said that the original boxscore he had been handed had it wrong and that Ranaudo was the winner...
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 5/31/09 at 9:38 pm to
AR did get the win. I was wrong.
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/31/09 at 9:39 pm to
deja vous (sp?)
Posted by JPLSU1981
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28424 posts
Posted on 5/31/09 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Everyone must have turned the radio off at the same time...Hanagriff came back after the commercial and corrected himself...said that the original boxscore he had been handed had it wrong and that Ranaudo was the winner...


Cool, I didn't hear him correct himself. We got home and quit listening, but I'm glad he did. I still don't understand why he wouldn't have known from the beginning that Ranaudo got the win. It was pretty obvious who the winning pitcher was.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 5/31/09 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

I still don't understand why he wouldn't have known from the beginning that Ranaudo got the win. It was pretty obvious who the winning pitcher was.


Hanagriff admitted to being a little discombobulated and said that he read off the incorrect box score without thinking about it...
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62999 posts
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

I think you are correct. Ranuado left the game with a tie score. He closes out as a no decision and Ott gets the win because we took the lead on his watch.


uh, no

ETA: After reading the rest of this thread there are a lot of people who don't understand the basics of baseball.
This post was edited on 5/31/09 at 10:07 pm
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2874 posts
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:15 pm to
I think it depends on when CPM officially put Ott in the game. I don't think it changed on the official scorecard until we had the lead so AR gets the win and Ott the save. Had CPM made the switch before we came to bat in the 10th then Ott would have gotten the win. None of us know exactly when this happenned but its logical to assume that CPM was holding his decision on who to pitch until after we hit in the 10th. If we had the lead Ott would come in, if we didn't someone else may have come in or Ott may have. I can't remember who we had warming but I think Jones was warming with Ott.

Regardless AR gets the win and Ott the save.

Think of it in the reverse. If we had been the home team CPM would have been forced to make his pitching decision before we took the lead. He most likely would have gone with Jones or Ott which would remove AR as the pither of record and Jones or Ott would have gotten the win with no save recorded.
This post was edited on 5/31/09 at 10:19 pm
Posted by MidCityTiger
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Member since Dec 2004
805 posts
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:19 pm to
It amazes me how much misinformation there is on this board that is stated as fact. Ranaudo was the pitcher of record until he was relieved by Ott in the bottom of the tenth. Therefore, he got the win; and since Ott fulfilled the criteria for a save, he was awarded the save. He, in fact, did break the record.

Hanagriff initially reported it correctly according to his understanding of the rules, and he was right. Apparently, he was then handed a release that had it wrong. This was later corrected.

You could look it up.

W - Ranaudo
S - Ott
This post was edited on 5/31/09 at 10:23 pm
Posted by postofficeclerk
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2008
91 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 5:23 am to
Renaudo's a monster. The bomber from Jersey.
Posted by s-man
Benton
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/1/09 at 5:50 am to
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Ranaudo left in the ninth. After nine complete, it was tied. He cannot get the win

Wrong, he left in the bottom half of the 10th inning when he was replaced. That's when the move is official.
This post was edited on 6/1/09 at 5:52 am
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 6:02 am to
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I think it depends on when CPM officially put Ott in the game.
Is it even possible to have a pitching change while your team is batting?

Posted by LittleJerry
Dallas
Member since Dec 2007
1038 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 6:20 am to
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Ranaudo left in the ninth. After nine complete, it was tied. He cannot get the win. Ott gets win because he was pitcher of record in the 10th inning, when LSU took the lead.


wrong
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 6:23 am to
you would think after 5 ncs's our fans would have a better grip on the fricking rules and shite.

its kinda sad that half didn't know this.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9165 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 7:31 am to
This thread is hilarious. It only confirms the baseball knowledge on this board.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 7:34 am to
yes it is. also the fact that someone spelled ranaudos name wrong when its in the title is golden.
Posted by eyeofthetiger3
Mandeville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/1/09 at 7:45 am to
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 7:49 am to
I'm actually curious, though. Is it even possible to have a pitching change in college baseball while your team is batting? I'm assuming that in the National League, if the new pitcher bats instead of the old pitcher in the top half of the inning, that would make the pitching change official then rather than in the bottom half. But with a DH, is it even possible to make the pitching change official while your team is at bat?

Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9165 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Is it even possible to have a pitching change in college baseball while your team is batting?

A pitching change isn't official until the new pitcher takes the mound. It doesn't matter what happens when you are batting.

quote:

I'm assuming that in the National League, if the new pitcher bats instead of the old pitcher in the top half of the inning, that would make the pitching change official then rather than in the bottom half.

Even if the new pitcher bats for the pitcher leaving the game, he is not the pitcher of record until he takes the mound.
This post was edited on 6/1/09 at 8:01 am
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 6/1/09 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Even if the new pitcher bats for the pitcher leaving the game, he is not the pitcher of record until he takes the mound.
I guess that makes sense, since you could theoretically just have someone pinch hitting for him, and then replace the pinch hitter with a new pitcher once you take the field. You never really know who is the new pitcher until he actually takes the mound, right? And the old pitcher is still "of record" until a new one is actually official?

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