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re: Why do the Patriots and Bama keep winning? Good read. It's all about Mindset.

Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93695 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:45 pm to
I would probably say that most of what you're talking about goes on at a majority of the schools including LSU.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:39 pm to
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Stop with the cheating excuse. LSU and every other major college program cheats just as much and you live in fantasy land if you think otherwise.


Cheat yes. Cheat just as much? No. You don’t sign 7 freaking #1 recruiting classes in a row unless you’re cheating on a completely different level.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29089 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:49 pm to
Yeah but do they have a Binder™??
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:49 pm to
You are an idiot if you think that the reason Bama is winning and the reasons why New England is winning have anything to do with each other.

Bama keeps winning because they have been able to stockpile talent far beyond what any other school can come close to. Even the playing field and they are just another team. The talent advantage they have over every team they play is ridiculous.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39299 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:09 am to
It is NOT about the mindset. Just try fixing the “mindset” anywhere else and see where it gets you.

Bama wins for the following reasons:

1) They do a better job recruiting than anyone else
2) They excel in their strength and conditioning program
3) They have a gigantic support staff that gives them an edge coming up with strategies and adjusting in game.
4) Their HC is a great disciplinarian who gets his kids focused on doing their jobs.
5) By having so much talent they are able to keep talented kids on the bench their first couple of years, so that the kids end up staying four years. So Bama’s average years of college experience for their starters is high relative to most schools with elite talent.

These are just some of the reasons. The point is that they do everything well. This is the hallmark of a great executive. This is what most coaches are simply unable to do - multi-task.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 6:11 am
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32634 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:20 am to
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That was not some ridiculously stacked team he had.
Players they had that year that started or played a ton of minutes- Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Barrett Jones, Julio Jones, Terrance Cody, Rolondo McClain, Donta Hightower, Javier Arenas, Mark Barron, Kareem Jackson, Marcell Dareus and Courtney Upshaw.

They were there because Saban in an incredible recruiter, but don’t act like that team wasn’t stacked.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16824 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:22 am to
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Frick all u down voting clowns . Who consistently beat Saban ? Hugh Freeze. Strange dude was takin out huh ? With all the cheating going on - NCAA only decides Huge freeze needs to be takin out ? lol - Come on man , Mark Emmertt , Sabans pal , what are the odds .? .... This shite goes deep and most are to dumb to notice .


Can you translate this into English, please?
Posted by tigerbytail
slapout
Member since Mar 2016
527 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:28 am to
If my memory is right, Saban was 9-4 after championship season...I Know he can do no wrong here on Rant..but LSU has never been a dynasty even under the great Saban...Bashing Coach O a is the popular thing to do but to think he can win the SEC every year is crazy..Give him this year and next to implement his system..After that then bash him if no progress is made..
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12897 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:10 am to
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Culture, high expectations,
add 'accountability at all levels' and you have the top-3 right there. Goes for many/most organizations.

I don't give a shite about your history, friends, how many year you've lettered, your 247 ranking, or coaching tree: Saban will hold you accountable for your failures.

He will also go out of his way to promote you for your success.

He will toss you out with the dog shite if you think you already know everything to know.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:17 am to
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Bama keeps winning because they have been able to stockpile talent far beyond what any other school can come close to. Even the playing field and they are just another team. The talent advantage they have over every team they play is ridiculous.


This is why people thought it was ok to hire Orgeron, because he was going to even the playing field and we were going to start beating Saban.

Thing people didn't consider is that players don't go to Bama because Saban's a great recruiter. They go there because he's a great coach. Somehow people actually thought we were getting closer to beating Saban by hiring Orgeron, simply because he's a recruiter. That's mind boggling.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 7:23 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:18 am to
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Bending rules, cheating, getting every important call, stacking the offices with your friends.


This is embarrassing.
Posted by zack7552
Lawton, OK
Member since Jul 2008
3823 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:56 am to
Has anyone said Dodge Chargers yet? Do the patriots get those too?
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3392 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:57 am to
I can make this a lot easier.

It's bc they have the two best coaches.
Posted by zack7552
Lawton, OK
Member since Jul 2008
3823 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:58 am to
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Their HC is a great disciplinarian


He is also the head of team sweep when they get in trouble.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:44 am to
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Strange dude was takin out huh ? With all the cheating going on - NCAA only decides Huge freeze needs to be takin out ? lol


their cheating was so blatantly obvious that everyone in the country knew they was doing it.

then players started bragging about getting cash money on National TV about it.
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