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re: Why didn't we hire Todd Golden

Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:57 pm to
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The ignorance of what Will Wade was actually accused of and what he actually did wrong is mind boggling.
At some point, they can no longer claim ignorance. They’re just stupid and choose to ignore truth.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by TigersJump
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:07 pm to
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The mistake was kicking Wade to the curb while other programs stood behind their coaches regardless of the sanctions held over their head. See Pearl and Self.


The other programs didn’t have their bread and butter football programs with an albatross around their necks. OLOTL, Les Miles, sexual allegations rampant amongst others. They cleaned house and BK was instructed to do the same with the entire staff and building. LSU’s situation was nothing like the others. Picking and choosing to remember certain parts of things to continue to be a female bitch on their board is what these fem boys are to their core.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:30 pm to
idk if I am supposedly ignorant or people downvoting me.

I feel like i have a pretty good grasp on what wade was accused of doing.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:40 pm to
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I feel like i have a pretty good grasp on what wade was accused of doing.
Not according to these 2 sentences:

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Not when he’s on a recorded line.

Wade was also paying shite out of his own pocket, doesn’t speak well to our NIL situation.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:42 pm to
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The mistake was giving him so much guaranteed in his contact.

His buyout is only 80% of his remaining contract. That comes to ~9 million if he's fired after this year. in the SEC, only Lamont Paris at USC is paid less than he is. Paris is also the only coach in the league with a lower buyout. I think the mistake is they took a gamble with a bargain bin coach and got bargain bin results.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Not when he’s on a recorded line.


he was in a wire tapped line.
It was recorded.

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Wade was also paying shite out of his own pocket, doesn’t speak well to our NIL situation.


also accused of paying shite out of his own pocket. Wife was cutting checks to the blackmail chick.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:57 pm to
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he was in a wire tapped line. It was recorded.
Javonte Smart was cleared by the NCAA. He was the damn strong offer that was recorded. So explain what else about the recording.
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also accused of paying shite out of his own pocket. Wife was cutting checks to the blackmail chick.
So what does him being extorted by the girlfriend of a former VCU player have to do with LSU and NIL that you started?

I’m listening.

ETA: I wasn’t trying to single you out Sammy. I don’t have any ill will. It’s just the generalities of caught on tape and wife’s checking account that are often repeated, but aren’t within factual context. It gets annoying.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:03 pm to
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in the SEC, only Lamont Paris at USC is paid less than he is.


Paris got an extension and raise after last season. He's ahead of McMahon. I think maybe only Vanderbilt's new HC is paid lower (annually) than McMahon.

The contract shouldn't be a big barrier to making a change if necessary.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Javonte Smart was cleared by the NCAA. He was the damn strong offer that was recorded. So explain what else about the recording.


He was on the wiretap. He was a face of the scandal in a way that wasn’t true of Self or Pearl.

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So what does him being extorted by the girlfriend of a former VCU player have to do with LSU and NIL that you started?


Buddy, he was paying blackmail because she was threatening to expose him paying players.

you know what innocent people do? Call the cops. they don’t have their wives cut a check.

I thinj it sucks. I liked will wade. I thought he made basketball so much more exciting. i’d love to hire him back

But Pearl wasn’t as heavily
implicated

And Self has 2 titles. There are 6 coaches all time with more than 2.

Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:59 pm to
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He was on the wiretap. He was a face of the scandal in a way that wasn’t true of Self or Pearl.
You didn't even address that the wiretap proved nothing. It was certainly used by Pat Forde and Dickie V to rail against Wade, but the actual conversation proved to be fruitless about Wade paying Javonte Smart, as Smart was cleared by the NCAA. What I said is a fact, what you said is "muh wiretap".
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Buddy, he was paying blackmail because she was threatening to expose him paying players.

you know what innocent people do? Call the cops. they don’t have their wives cut a check.
And again, you completely ignored what that has to do with LSU and NIL. That was from VCU. What I said is fact, what you said is "muh wife's checkbook".
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But Pearl wasn’t as heavily
implicated

And Self has 2 titles. There are 6 coaches all time with more than 2.

Completely irrelevant to the conversation.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70501 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:36 pm to
His sanctions were derivatives of an allegation that was false and cleared. An uncooperative atmosphere and a failure to report a potential violation that didn’t happen doesn’t equal paying players out of pocket.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:47 pm to
Sounds like the BK contract.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:50 pm to
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His sanctions were derivatives of an allegation that was false and cleared. An uncooperative atmosphere and a failure to report a potential violation that didn’t happen doesn’t equal paying players out of pocket.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to get into with Sammy, but the same shite is repeated over and over without any real knowledge of what actually happened.

It's too late for me to educate people on this, but what happened is the FBI was wiretapping Dawkins - and - Wade was on one of the wiretaps getting recorded saying "strong-arse offer" talking about Javonte, who was literally cleared to play by the NCAA after investigating.

The media that most here love to criticize just ran with it. And the sheep now keep saying the same fricking shite that isn't accurate.

Be fricking accurate. And be able to back it up. "Muh Streetball" morons.

/soapbox
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:55 pm to
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Other programs weren’t facing investigations that included their cash cow football program as well. Some of you may be invested enough in the basketball program that you think it was worth risking football sanctions. Most LSU fans wouldn’t agree. Even if the chances were small of a major penalty, they were big enough that it wasn’t worth the gamble. There’s also the matter of integrity.


The NCAA was literally on the verge of total and complete collapse of their power. Other programs (ie Auburn, Kansas) understood this and stood by their coaches knowing nothing would happen to them.

LSU and Woodward folded at the poker table.

It’s really that simple.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Wade was also paying shite out of his own pocket, doesn’t speak well to our NIL situation


Perhaps go do some light reading on what actually did here before talking out of your arse ?
Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:59 pm to
That seems to be a trend with Woodword.
He needs to be audited for awarding these ridiculous contracts.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:16 pm to
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Perhaps go do some light reading on what actually did here before talking out of your arse ?
Some dudes don't want to. They just repeat the same shite until other people start believing it too.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:03 pm to
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LSU and Woodward folded at the poker table.


Yes, they did. It was a gamble. In hindsight, they probably would have won. Probably isn’t good enough when it comes to the football team
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:08 pm to
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Just a bad deal all the way around. No one was coming who was at a top tier program, and an up and comer wasnt leaving for LSU without a massive deal. We got the best guy we could, it just hasn't worked out. MM is here through next season I'd say.


I agree with everything except the last sentence. If this goes the way we expect, MM is gone in March. Three years, zero progress. And no reason to expect it.
Posted by TigersJump
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Member since Feb 2018
3952 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:44 pm to
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the same shite is repeated over and over without any real knowledge of what actually happened.


Yeah, so all of you Wade cucks take your own advice. None of you were in the shoes of any LSU brass, nor were any of you privy to what LSU sports as a whole was facing. You idiots pick and choose what you want to spew out and makes all of you sound like the idiots you are. LSU’s overall sports situation with football being at the forefront then was nothing at all like the situations of the other schools mentioned. Picking and choosing select portions for an argument is a female trait. It’s also the trait of an individual with a low IQ. As it pertains to this board and running off at the mouth concerning Wade and “him coming back…. Blah blah blah”, the traits of these fem boys match those perfectly.
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