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re: Why did the NCAA go to a playoff committee instead of keeping the BCS and take the top
Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:54 am to ShaneTheMaster
Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:54 am to ShaneTheMaster
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The last iterations of the BCS computations did factor in human polls, so I'm not sure why we need a human committee.
Because the committee is better than the poll. The AP was not used in the later BCS rankings, they created the Harris poll which was just some retired journalists, coaches, TV people. The committee are professionals that meet and watch the games. I really don’t why people get so up in arms about it, like it would be significantly different if it was the BCS
ETA The NCAA has nothing to do with the playoff or BCS
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:57 am to atltiger6487
You need both. Computer programs provide non-biased computations of team strength, and are able to make complex calculations humans can't. What computers can't determine are injuries, play on the field, and other factors.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:01 am to FreddieMac
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They do not have the CBs and LBs that both LSU and Bama have at this point
This is how I know you don't know anything
Jeff Okudah is going to be the top corner taken in the draft next year and Shaun Wade is the #7 corner on the list below (he's been climbing all season and I've seen him as high as 21 in mocks). Oh yea we also have #18.
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:17 am to Buckeye06
Lmao exactly, we have better. No one talks out of their arse more than LSU fans.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:31 am to bucknut15
The committee was created to help keep legacy teams (Alabama, ND, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, etc) in if needed while bumping a possibly more deserving team out. They accomplish this by media blitzes and using phrases like “they pass the eye test”, and “most complete team”. They will over look facts that don’t fit their narrative and push inflated irrelevant stats if it helps their cause. The fact is that there will always be bias and the only way to limit the bias is doing a complete overhaul and going to a true playoff system, which we know will not happen. In the mean time expanding the playoff to 8 teams should help.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:46 am to Kirk Herbstreit
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They will over look facts that don’t fit their narrative and push inflated irrelevant stats if it helps their cause
Can you provide some examples?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:51 am to Bow dude72
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:04 am to Pauldean
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Part of the issue was that fans were tired of the computers being so "important."
Who are these fans?
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They wanted the "human element" involved
Who the frick would want that??
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:11 am to ScoopAndScore
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They wanted the "human element" involved
Who the frick would want that??
There has always been a human element involved. In the BCS, the AP was 1/3 of the vote and coaches were another 1/3.
How the hell anyone thought giving coaches on active teams a vote in the fate of where teams end up was a good idea is beyond me. It is well documented that Saban voted Okie St. lower on his ballot in 2011 than anyone else and put Bama higher to get his team in.
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:13 am to ShaneTheMaster
quote:what factors are used/not used in those "non-biased computations"? What weighting is given to those factors?
Computer programs provide non-biased computations of team strength
Who decides all of that? You got it -- humans.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:21 am to Kirk Herbstreit
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The fact is that there will always be bias and the only way to limit the bias is doing a complete overhaul and going to a true playoff system
I think LSU has been helped by this bias more than it's been hurt by it. I don't think the media is out to get LSU. When the Tigers take care of their business they get plenty of respect nationally. But until they get over the bama hump, it's going to be hard to take LSU seriously.
It's like Tennesse back in the 90s. The talk was, "Oh they're good but they can't beat Florida." That became all that mattered. Good team. Good program. Can't beat Florida. After they finally beat Florida they won the whole damn thing.
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