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Why did the Heisman trophy turn into a team award over the last couple of decades?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 12:59 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 12:59 am
The media is so dumb. The Heisman trophy is supposed to be given to the best player in college football. However, it often ends up being given to the best player on the best team.
If it was being given to the best player, Jayden Daniels would be the clear winner right now.
If it was being given to the best player, Jayden Daniels would be the clear winner right now.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 1:00 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:08 am to cbree88
And it’s been like that for the decades before.
It’s not a secret it usually goes to the best guy on the best team but in this case Daniels is too obvious.
The A&M game is the game people will make their final decision on.
If he does what he has done lately against A&M then I think it’s his.
It’s not a secret it usually goes to the best guy on the best team but in this case Daniels is too obvious.
The A&M game is the game people will make their final decision on.
If he does what he has done lately against A&M then I think it’s his.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:33 am to Morpheus
They used to just pick the best player on Notre Dame and that was that. It's now more about being on a great team, not necessarily the best player. If JD5 doesn't win then it's a joke.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:35 am to cbree88
I agree with you. It’s turned into a popularity contest. Shouldn’t be that way but it sure seems like it is. More often than not.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:12 am to cbree88
I get where you’re coming from and am right there with you in support of JD. But, what media are you paying attention to? Bc the majority of the National media is pushing JD.
Also, I’m not sure that you are accurate. The last decade+ of Heisman winners were pretty on point with the best player in football.
2022 - Caleb Williams - Easy call
2021 - Bryce Young - Best player on best team. Dude threw for nearly 5000 yards in SEC
2020 - Devonta Smith - arguably could’ve been Trevor Lawrence, but he was kinda meh at times and Devonta was a monster
2019 - Joey B - Duh
2018 - Kyler - argument for Tua but that would’ve been best team. Also Kyler’s #s we’re stupid and similar to JD’s this year.
2017 - Baker - Best player
2016 - Lamar - No question
2015 - Derrick Henry - sucks bc Leonard but he was #1
2014 - Mariota - Pretty much a no brainer, arguably should’ve been Melvin Gordon
2013 - Jameis - Best player by far - 2 was AJ Mac and 3 was Jordan Lynch (barely even remember this Jabroni)
2012 - Johnny Football - Best player on not best team
2011 - RGIII - Best player on not best team
2010 - Cam - No Brainer, best player on best team
Also, I’m not sure that you are accurate. The last decade+ of Heisman winners were pretty on point with the best player in football.
2022 - Caleb Williams - Easy call
2021 - Bryce Young - Best player on best team. Dude threw for nearly 5000 yards in SEC
2020 - Devonta Smith - arguably could’ve been Trevor Lawrence, but he was kinda meh at times and Devonta was a monster
2019 - Joey B - Duh
2018 - Kyler - argument for Tua but that would’ve been best team. Also Kyler’s #s we’re stupid and similar to JD’s this year.
2017 - Baker - Best player
2016 - Lamar - No question
2015 - Derrick Henry - sucks bc Leonard but he was #1
2014 - Mariota - Pretty much a no brainer, arguably should’ve been Melvin Gordon
2013 - Jameis - Best player by far - 2 was AJ Mac and 3 was Jordan Lynch (barely even remember this Jabroni)
2012 - Johnny Football - Best player on not best team
2011 - RGIII - Best player on not best team
2010 - Cam - No Brainer, best player on best team
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:15 am to LSUFAN227
Also, outside of Joey B, Jameis and Cam, the only ones that won the trophy while being on the best team were the Bama boys, and most of them deserved it, unfortunately.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:29 am to LSUFAN227
Bryce Young was not the best player on that Alabama team. It wasn’t close.
Anderson and Jameson Williams were better than he was, Anderson especially
Anderson and Jameson Williams were better than he was, Anderson especially
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:40 am to fightingtigers98
I mean, come on man. He was the quarterback and threw for nearly 5000 yards. You going to try to tell me a Defensive player, who wasn’t even a finalist should’ve won it? But, whatever, 1 out of 14. Nice
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:06 am to cbree88
Jayden Daniels should win it, but it's far from a lock. The last game the voters will likely see is Bo Nix against Penix. If one of them has a big day and gets his team into the playoff on a cold, rainy day in a conference championship game, it may seem like Daniels is a distant memory. Voters react emotionally to what happened most recently. They're prisoners of the moment, so the past 12 weeks may fade away.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 4:07 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:31 am to cbree88
Charles Woodson changed it all. Best player on one of the best teams and had a superior Heisman moment against OSU.
Mannings reaction to Woodson announced the winner was epic.
Manning was easily the best player that year, but they could never beat Florida.
I realize Tebow and Jackson won on 3 loss teams, but they were considered "unicorns" in college football, but now we know they weren't. JD will have an uphill battle against the two Pac-10/12/2 QBs.
Mannings reaction to Woodson announced the winner was epic.
Manning was easily the best player that year, but they could never beat Florida.
I realize Tebow and Jackson won on 3 loss teams, but they were considered "unicorns" in college football, but now we know they weren't. JD will have an uphill battle against the two Pac-10/12/2 QBs.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 5:57 am to cbree88
Shallow logic, but it’s a team sport. For a long time, individual players’ performances were noticed based on the teams success or failure. JD5 is more the exception than the rule.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:13 am to cbree88
If he has another good game this week and we can expect CBK to let him run loose, it’s his award
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:19 am to cbree88
Paul Hornung won the Heisman on a 2-8 Notre Dame team.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:30 am to cbree88
It’s not a team award. If it was, Jayden Daniels would not be in the running.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:53 am to LSUFAN227
2015 McCaffery had a better season than Henry.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 7:03 am to BHS78
Maybe so, but if you watched the way he man handled our defense, and walked away saying that he was anything but the best player in the country then your eyes were closed.
He also averaged 218 ypg rushing over his last 4 SEC games when SEC defenses were still actually good, and every single player knew where the ball was going.
The end of his season was insane.
He also averaged 218 ypg rushing over his last 4 SEC games when SEC defenses were still actually good, and every single player knew where the ball was going.
The end of his season was insane.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 7:07 am to cbree88
Coming up with excuses this early?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 7:47 am to cbree88
Woodson is the first I remember. Michigan at 9-3 and Manning would have won it.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 7:48 am to cbree88
The very first Heisman was awarded to dude who was clearly performing better than rest, he was described as "a one-man-gang".
That criteria fits unstoppable guys like Barry Sanders, Tebow, Newton, RG3, Manziel, Lamar, Burrow, & Caleb, in their Heisman seasons.
Jayden clearly fits that decription this year.
That criteria fits unstoppable guys like Barry Sanders, Tebow, Newton, RG3, Manziel, Lamar, Burrow, & Caleb, in their Heisman seasons.
Jayden clearly fits that decription this year.
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