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Why did Mainieri start to slip late at lsu?

Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1008 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:03 pm
I’m not a biggest baseball fan but was just curious did he start to slip in recruiting or was it in game adjustments? He was not bad at all but Jay seems to be on another level.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10017 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:08 pm to
Seemed to me like he had lost passion for the game after his Dad passed away. Maybe he just needed time away from it.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35230 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:08 pm to
His health was not near 100% and it started to show. He was in constant pain.

He needed a few years off to get right.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68600 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:12 pm to
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He was not bad at all but Jay seems to be on another level.

Father Time is undefeated. Paul got old, had health issues, lost family members, has grandchildren, etc. Jay is 30 years younger and basically just has his wife and baseball.
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
5852 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:14 pm to
recruiting
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:16 pm to
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His health was not near 100% and it started to show. He was in constant pain.

That was an excuse IMO. It was losing his dad. Take it from someone that has 4 fused vertebrae in his neck and arthritis everywhere in my spine that I’ve fought since my 50’s. Losing your parent or a spouse weighs heavily on you especially if your other parent is still living. You become the parent of your parents and have to help them get through a very difficult time in life.

Live long enough and you’ll see.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51570 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:17 pm to
Mainieri didn’t want to admit the BBCOR era was over when teams started to slug again
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284807 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:17 pm to
Had a poor stretch of recruiting. Coincidentally his last full class was great
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14734 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:22 pm to
He was getting old and he had a serious neck condition that required surgery. He is much better now. The neck part, not the age part. .
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:22 pm to
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Coincidentally his last full class was great

Except pitching. Pitching was abysmal when Johnson arrived. Jacob Berry was the best hitter on that first Johnson team, no offense to Morgan or Crews.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75251 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:25 pm to
I think Mainieri was jsut slow to adapt.

He was slow to the dead bats, and then failed to go after home run hitters when the bats got more pop up again
but he had a great class his last year in.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284807 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:27 pm to
He had a 1st rd hitter & pitcher (Ty floyd). Thats pretty good if all else fails

Garrett Edwards was going to be really good but we missed the best of him
Posted by Madmax77
mandeville
Member since Dec 2015
156 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:28 pm to
berry was a better hitter than crews?? based on what exactly? 20 points in BA? berry was never close to crews in any aspect of the game, not just hitting, which is basically all berry was good for.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284807 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Jacob Berry was the best hitter on that first Johnson team, no offense to Morgan or Crews.


One of these guys slugged .800 in SEC games and it wasn’t Berry
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:41 pm to
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berry was a better hitter than crews?? based on what exactly? 20 points in BA? berry was never close to crews in any aspect of the game, not just hitting, which is basically all berry was good for.

Why don’t you read what I wrote? Berry was a switch hitter and relied on as such in that line up. He made everyone on both sides of him better. His OPS was damn near equal to Crews. So, Berry was more valuable in that spot.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28708 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:42 pm to
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Jacob Berry was the best hitter on that first Johnson team, no offense to Morgan or Crews.


Jacob Berry was literally just a bat. Thompson, Crews, Pearson, Beloso, Floyd, and Morgan were all PM recruits.

That isn't a knock on Jay because he obviously took them to the next level but PM killed it with his last class or two.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

One of these guys slugged .800 in SEC games and it wasn’t Berry

Both sides of the plate? Why do you think they pitched around Berry?
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

He had a 1st rd hitter & pitcher (Ty floyd). Thats pretty good if all else fails Garrett Edwards was going to be really good but we missed the best of him
lefties?
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
621 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:46 pm to
I never felt that Mainieri was elite. Not at the start, not at the finish. He was a good coach, but not a Skip. I feel Jay is a step above, time will tell.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
3575 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:47 pm to
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PM killed it with his last class or two
I would make the argument that Nolan Cain had more to do with that class than PM.
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