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re: Why did Chase Opt out (QUIT)?

Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:27 pm to
Bitness decision
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:29 pm to
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but NFL Gm’S all look at what have you done for me lately........and they have not seen Chase in game action in a year....


This is false. GM’s look at your entire body of work. They watch countless hours of film in these players not just what we see in tv. Even if what you say is true the last thing they will see before the draft is him at the draft combine where he will probably put up crazy numbers and they will immediately forget about the fact he didn’t play in 2020 and go watch him torch first round draft pick and pretty good NFL rookie AJ Terrell in the national championship.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4351 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:29 pm to
Clark was on Moscona earlier this season saying he wish Ali Gaye would opt out. Clark is an a-hole.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:33 pm to
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Chase’s father said the “social issues” were part of the equation on 104.5.



Ok here is one problem



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Whether or not Clark was involved, who knows,




Here is another problem..


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but Chase’s father said Clark hadn’t been in contact with them.




OK sure..... 1st of all if Clark talked to him and even anything close to the movement, Then at that point Chase needs to start looking out for himself... Its HIS life... He has played football since he was like 5 its his dream to play in the NFL... GREAT.... But Ryan Clark really needs to stay away from the program.....
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:38 pm to
As an example 5th overall pick gets a total contract of 30 million - 15th overall pick is 15 million, hope whatever the reason, it was worth the 10-15 million it will end up costing him.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10606 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:39 pm to
Arguably, he had the greatest season for a receiver in SEC history, won the Biletnikoff and a National Championship. There really wasn't anything he could do on the field to improve his stock and he had everything to risk by being injured. LSU fans don't like it but was a smart business decision and COVID was just the convenient excuse for that decision.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68707 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:42 pm to
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but Moscona (ESPN BR Radio) claims that there was another reason?

probably was ineligible for one reason or another (grades, weed, agent) if I had to guess. I don't think it had anything to do with what he saw in practice. Marshall had no trouble putting up huge numbers despite our struggles.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:45 pm to
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probably was ineligible for one reason or another (grades, weed, agent) if I had to guess.


The NFL GM'S will love these stories.....
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:45 pm to
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playing this year would have helped him more than hurt him...
that's just plain dumb. nothing Chase could have done would have improved his status. However, a Tyrone Prothro injury could have derailed his entire future.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68707 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:47 pm to
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If it was weed ,you would have seen a gradual increase of suspensions and the lengths f those suspensions increasing each time.

not necessarily. Mathieu was suspended the Auburn game in 2011 for weed and then kicked off the team right before the 2012 season with no other suspensions in between. If the rumors that him missing the NW State game was an internal suspension for a failed drug test have any merit, then who's to say it's impossible for him to have been in a situation like Mathieu and he chose to "opt out" rather than have a suspension publicized and hurt his stock. I have no idea what the reasons were, but to say it would have had to be a gradual increase in suspension lengths is just not true.
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Do yall really think that all of the prospects that opted out were covering something up.

I think every case is unique. People thinking Chase may have had some other non-publicized reason doesn't mean that applies to everyone. That's kind of a leapyou're making that no one has alleged.
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There were a ton of 1st ,2nd ,and 3rd rounders that opted out too . They arent all potheads

again, what may be the case for one player doesn't mean the same has to be true for everyone.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68707 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:49 pm to
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The NFL GM'S will love these stories.....

If it's weed, they probably won't care given the NFL doesn't test for it anymore. They also won't care if it's an issue with accepting money from an agent. And honestly, they probably wouldn't care if it was grades either. His grades don't affect is ability to get open and catch the football.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11832 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:50 pm to
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If it was weed ,you would have seen a gradual increase of suspensions and the lengths f those suspensions increasing each time.

I have no idea if there’s any truth to the rumors, but if he was suspended for a game in 2019 then I believe that means his next suspension would have been 4 games. In a 10 game season.

Unless it’s actually a percentage of scheduled games?

Either way, the speculation is that he already had to sit one out last year vs. Northwestern State.

It’s still naive IMO to think the ability to accept an advance from an agency didn’t play a huge factor, even if he was facing some kind of disciplinary action.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:52 pm to
What does it matter?
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10526 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:52 pm to
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I don't think it had anything to do with what he saw in practice.

Same.

The 3 games Brennan played, we averaged 370 passing yards and 4 passing TDs per game. That's almost identical to what Burrow averaged in 2019.

And we'd have looked even better in practice, because Chase was still there.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:52 pm to
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nothing Chase could have done would have improved his status



Ive never said this...



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However, a Tyrone Prothro injury could have derailed his entire future.




Oh well.... Thats why you play the game..... Look I really don't care that he opted out... Good for him.... Take it while you can get it... BUT his draft stock dropped IMO........ Look at who he had around him last year... A GREAT QB... 3-4 Players that can catch the ball at any time so the defense is already confused...
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68707 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:53 pm to
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that's just plain dumb. nothing Chase could have done would have improved his status. However, a Tyrone Prothro injury could have derailed his entire future.

I think the issue is more along the lines of solidifying his slot as the #1 WR taken. There is no guarantee he is. Devanta Smith could be with the production he's had this year. Waddle very well could be if he heals from his injury and shows out at the combine (all recent evidence points to him already being close to ready to go). You also have to throw Pitts into the mix as well. But Chase didn't play, so he was always risking falling from his preseason draft grades and having other guys who were playing this year passing him. I won't say whether I think it was a good or bad decision because that was his to make, but the difference in guaranteed money from a top 5 pick to a top 15-20 pick isn't small.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15562 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:54 pm to
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5th overall pick gets a total contract of 30 million - 15th overall pick is 15 million, hope whatever the reason, it was worth the 10-15 million it will end up costing him.


He isn't going 15th. I would assume Chase considered that he stock may drop/get passed up and not be the first receiver taken but that he is ok with that.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted by lsu52
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2005
1022 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:54 pm to
Was about to have a 3rd failed drug test and miss games
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9582 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:56 pm to
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Was about to have a 3rd failed drug test and miss games



Yeah. Thats what I had heard.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21166 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 2:59 pm to
Secure wealth for his family. Shame on him!!
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