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re: Why are people worried Joe Brady won’t be here next year?

Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by sumbodyorsum1
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:39 pm to
not sure why the down votes

LSU will do what it needs to retain him
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2328 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:40 pm to
Let’s make joe brady the highest paid OC in the nation after this year
Posted by Nughuffer
Member since Jun 2015
377 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:41 pm to
Yeah, I mean, who wouldn't believe you that this is all determined by Esminger. He's been calling these plays for LSU for years. This new cat "Brady" is just there to get him coffee and draw up fancy Madden plays.
Posted by LSUjhawk
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Jun 2019
245 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:42 pm to
Might have to outbid the Saints
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:59 pm to
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So why discuss it with them?
Common courtesy?

Meyer gave Mullen his first gig as a GA at Notre Dame. Then his first paying job at Bowling Green. Then at Utah. Then made him financially stable as the OC at Florida.

So yeah. Common courtesy. Unless, of course, Miss St said, "sign now, or no deal". THAT Meyer would have understood (as the typical way these poaching deals go down).
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 5:00 pm
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7033 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:01 pm to
Because they gotta worry about SOMETHING ;)
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5605 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:07 pm to
He will have many options. AD’s and NFL owners love offense.

How the hell did Kingsbury get a HC gig?

Brady is a hot name.

And he may know that they key to this offense is the QB.

Burrow can run it. Are you (is Brady sure) sure any other QB we have can?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:09 pm to
Ensminger ran the offense he was told to run last year, he is running the offense he is told to run this year.

Certainly he has his deficits, but we were not horrible, especially at the end of the year. We still were not going to beat Bama with it, so we had to change...but E was not some utter disaster.

Next year we will have CO OCs if this continues to work. After that if it continues to do well E will be named associate HC or retire and Brady will be the OC in 2021. We wont have to worry about him bolting until 2023 for a mid major job as a OC. If he is remarkably successful he may transition back into the NFL game.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:13 pm to
Your argument is flawed in a couple of ways.

1. this situation isn't similar to LSU and Brady. Mullen was offered an HC position. Something that Florida couldn't match even if he asked. LSU can match an OC position and almost any salary offers.

2. You're argument that Mullen had like a 1 day negotiation with Miss State because Urban Didn't know he took the job ignores the fact that he could have told Urban right after he signed the contract OR that he may just be a prick who didn't care.

3. Hot coaches don't need to take "sign now or no deal" offers. Only a fricking moron wouldn't ask for a period to review a contract.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48048 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:16 pm to
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Why would Joe Brady be recruiting if he was only planning on being here one year






holy shite
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:19 pm to
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3. Hot coaches don't need to take "sign now or no deal" offers. Only a fricking moron wouldn't ask for a period to review a contract.
That's how it almost always works with poached coaches and poached girlfriends.

And the terms and construct of the contract are dictated (or agreed to) by the coach's agent well ahead of time.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 5:30 pm
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9786 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:21 pm to
Don't worry E now knows what Joe is doing so you won't lose both, LOL. LSU fans overreact to everything.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:29 pm to
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That's how it almost always works with poached coaches and poached girlfriends.


No its not.

There are lots of coaches who get meeting and get contacted and stay at their school.

Dave Aranda - stayed at LSu after A&M made a run at him
Ryan Day - Stayed at tOSU after the Titans made a run at him.

Realistically you aren't going to know what a guy wants without at least talking to his agent.

And if that agent is any good he is already talking to his client's current employer to see what they will do for their client.

Realsitically, coaches get poached by better schools or mac daddy offers.

There aren't many better schools, and we can match any mac daddy offers. Brady is smart enough to know that.

All of our coaches are. Which is why Raymond isn't at UGA, Aranda isn't at A&M and Brady wont be anywhere else next year.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:36 pm to
Meyer got poached to Utah and poached again to Florida. By the time Bowling Green and Utah prepared a counter-offer, the deals were signed sealed and delivered.

Business at this level is highly competitive and sometimes cutthroat. Fair play works fine with the average transaction, but it is balls-to-the-wall for the hottest of the hot coaches. And Brady is as hot as they get.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:41 pm to
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Meyer got poached to Utah and poached again to Florida. By the time Bowling Green and Utah prepared a counter-offer, the deals were signed sealed and delivered.


Again, you're bringing up examples where a guy is make move to a clearly better program. There was nothing Utah could offer Urban that would make them anything more than a Mountain West program. Utah didn't even joint he Pac 12 until 2011.

Utah can't match an offer from Florida. No use in discussing it. I also don't think Urban Meyer was pressured into taking a take it or leave it offer. Florida is a premier job, and he took it, with a great compensation. He still had options thought.

quote:

Business at this level is highly competitive and sometimes cutthroat. Fair play works fine with the average transaction, but it is balls-to-the-wall for the hottest of the hot coaches. And Brady is as hot as they get.


And hot commodities don't have terms dictated to them.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88134 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:43 pm to
Scott Woodward is our AD, we’re good.

If it were Alleva still then yeah I could see him fricking this up somehow.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38105 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Because he is now the hottest young Spread/RPO installer in the nation. Another school could team him up with an old hand OC (like Meyer did with Ryan Day at Ohio St, and LSU did with E). LSU has been chasing an offense like this for a decade. Many other programs have been in that same boat for longer.

Brady's agent is no doubt getting calls already.
I've tried to explain this to people already and they just don't get it. It doesn't matter though. The blind people don't call the shots. So I'm confident we can do what it takes to keep him.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:47 pm to
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And hot commodities don't have terms dictated to them.

Pay attention. In these rare cases, the agents have communicated each and every demand the coach and agent want. (And, if married, what the wife and kids want).

And, the AD is usually armed with a 10% or 15% sweetener to seal the deal. This system doesn't work every time, but it works very often. Amazed you aren't aware that this goes on.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33900 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:48 pm to
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Don't worry E now knows what Joe is doing




What does that mean? You think Ensminger can run this offense on his own now?

He's had 20 years to put together a good offense and you think he's up to date in one offseason?

If he could've done this on his own he would've done it.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:51 pm to
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Scott Woodward is our AD, we’re good.
Yes, Woodward will likely get a deal done soon. Would be weird as hell if he doesn't.
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