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re: Why are people worried Joe Brady won’t be here next year?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:27 pm to lostinbr
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:27 pm to lostinbr
quote:OC, of course. With a HC who is 100% on board with the decision. Happens all the time. Some HCs will walk away from that, but most will not - especially if Brady is the OC in question.
So if Michigan will go after Brady if Harbaugh gets canned, what position will they offer him?
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Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:28 pm to abellsujr
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Some of you with your head in the sand need wake up.
Theres a difference between having your head in the sand and having confidence that we will do what needs to be done to keep him.
Almost everyone agrees he will get a raise and promotion at the end of this season. But what’s the point of freaking out about it right now? Why do people think we won’t keep him next year, and what exactly do you think we should be doing differently?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:28 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind teams will offer him an OC job next year. Especially if this continues at this level. His stock is WAY higher than some on here want to admit for some reason.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:31 pm to lostinbr
quote:I'm not really referring to you. You've been reasonable. But some of these people saying Burrow is making him what he is or SE can do what he does, those are the people I'm talking to. Yes, Burrow is a great QB, but do not underestimate what Brady has done here. He's on fire right now.
Almost everyone
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:39 pm to skullhawk
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They lose him to the NFL or if he wants the offense to himself (no ensminger).
This is what he wants and deserves. If he doesn’t get $1.5M and OC, he’s peacing our to another school who will no doubt pay him. Ensminger will likely step down to coach TEs though.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:43 pm to Four Leaf Tayback
I don't think Ensminger ever really wanted the OC job. Honestly, I think he's happily grooming Brady to replace him next year.
This week on the Rant has really been a circus. Some people can't wait to run Aranda out of town. Others are freaking out that someone will take Brady away from us. We're 2-0, the team looks great and people are freaking out.
This week on the Rant has really been a circus. Some people can't wait to run Aranda out of town. Others are freaking out that someone will take Brady away from us. We're 2-0, the team looks great and people are freaking out.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:44 pm to abellsujr
If Brady stays on the same trajectory this season, he will be valued (by the open market) at the high end of current Coordinator salaries.
If LSU can sign him, he'll bring in most of the elite recruits (and transfers) in the passing game... QBs, WRs, OLs & TEs.
LSU won't be recruiting as much as they'll be selecting.
If LSU can sign him, he'll bring in most of the elite recruits (and transfers) in the passing game... QBs, WRs, OLs & TEs.
LSU won't be recruiting as much as they'll be selecting.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:49 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Yep. We're talking culture change here that Brady is doing. National positive exposure (for a change). Heisman trophy winners. That's what's happening here, and some are not grasping that.
If LSU can sign him, he'll bring in most of the elite recruits (and transfers) in the passing game... QBs, WRs, OLs & TEs.
And we have to absolutely credit O as well for encouraging this process and letting Brady do it. He might just be the guy that's right for us.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:53 pm to abellsujr
quote:Burrow can't operate at this level without an elite Spread/RPO OC. And I would argue that Brady can't operate at this level without an elite Spread/RPO QB.
Yes, Burrow is a great QB, but do not underestimate what Brady has done here. He's on fire right now.
That said, I think elite S/R QBs will flock to Brady at LSU.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:56 pm to abellsujr
quote:Agree. Harbaugh has not supported Gattis at Michigan, and they have a mess on their hands.
And we have to absolutely credit O as well for encouraging this process and letting Brady do it.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:59 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Happens all the time.
You keep saying this, and it’s just not true. The norm is for head coaches to choose their staff. There are some cases where previous coordinators have stayed at a program under a new head coach (although I had to go back to 1990 to find an example for Michigan) but that’s not the same as the AD saying “we will hire you if you use this OC we’ve offered.” Remember you said it wouldn’t surprise you if they were ALREADY negotiating with Brady’s people.
I don’t know of a single case where this has happened. Maybe you do, but even then it’s the exception not the rule. Just like coaches don’t accept “today and only today” offers “all the time” like you said earlier. That might work for used car salesmen, but not for million dollar contract negotiations.
I am amazed with what Brady’s done with our offense. But the blatant non-truths are getting old. You’re always throwing “facts” out there like you’re in the know. See: “my sources tell me receivers don’t have access to JUGS machines” posts from July.
Please make another ban bet with admins.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:08 pm to lostinbr
quote:Whittingham at Utah (DC) immediately comes to mind. This, when unknown Urban Meyer was hired. Neither were happy at the outset, but they became good friends and still stay in touch.
I don’t know of a single case where this has happened.
I don't know this for a fact, but I'd guess O didn't really have any choice about Aranda. Again, just guessing.
Unless a HC is an A-Lister, very few have total control over all staff hires.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:15 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Whittingham at Utah (DC) immediately comes to mind. This, when unknown Urban Meyer was hired.
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I don't know this for a fact, but I'd guess O didn't really have any choice about Aranda.
Both of these guys were already on the staff. As I said:
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There are some cases where previous coordinators have stayed at a program under a new head coach (although I had to go back to 1990 to find an example for Michigan) but that’s not the same as the AD saying “we will hire you if you use this OC we’ve offered.”
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:32 pm to lostinbr
And, The 10,000 Jugs reps the WRs got this Summer is an important reason that the VERY SAME WRs who had very close to the most drops in college football in '18, now have the nearly the highest catch rate in college football.
These were always elite athletes. They were simply grossly unprepared in 2018.
Chase said they started the 10,000 Jugs reps in July. So, my source was off by a week or two? Big deal. The important point is that LSU is now out of the Stone Age in WR offseason mega-reps.
These were always elite athletes. They were simply grossly unprepared in 2018.
Chase said they started the 10,000 Jugs reps in July. So, my source was off by a week or two? Big deal. The important point is that LSU is now out of the Stone Age in WR offseason mega-reps.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:36 pm to lostinbr
quote:Brady is now a national phenom. He will absolutely have that kind of clout with any program who wants a Spread/RPO offense. If you don't know THAT, then it is silly to talk to you.
Both of these guys were already on the staff. As I said:
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:37 pm to tigerintexas777
First things first. I'm worried about Joe Burrow not being here next year.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:50 pm to tigerintexas777
I agree, they will not let him go. I dont know about being OC without any experience. But like you said, hire him as OC with E helping him. Then give him the reigns in a couple years.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:51 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Chase said they started the 10,000 Jugs reps in July. So, my source was off by a week or two? Big deal.
Fair enough. What about when you said we were “in the dark ages as to WR practice needs” in August? Was that before or after Marucci used the $14k glasses to study the effect of eye dominance on catch rate?
Your source doesn’t sound like a “source” so much as a “hunch”.
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The Michigan boards are drooling over Joe Brady. They paid Josh Gattis $900K (guaranteed - more in bonuses) to do at Michigan what Brady did at LSU. Gattis failed. Brady succeeded.
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If you read the Michigan boards, they wish like hell they had hired Brady over Gattis. (They apparently don't care where Brady went to school or worked)
Links?
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 9/13/19 at 7:16 pm to beantown
That’s kind of a strange take on whether he stays or goes.
Most of the coaches on the LSU staff have options to coach elsewhere and make equivalent pay or better. Maybe he feels he can make a name for himself and then at some point become a head coach at a major program. Maybe he likes Louisiana .
I don’t know how long he stays here, but LSU is by no means a stepping stone to be a coordinator at another program. If he has continued success and is treated well here, when he does leave it’s for an NFL job or to be a head coach, not a lateral move .
Most of the coaches on the LSU staff have options to coach elsewhere and make equivalent pay or better. Maybe he feels he can make a name for himself and then at some point become a head coach at a major program. Maybe he likes Louisiana .
I don’t know how long he stays here, but LSU is by no means a stepping stone to be a coordinator at another program. If he has continued success and is treated well here, when he does leave it’s for an NFL job or to be a head coach, not a lateral move .
Posted on 9/13/19 at 8:31 pm to cyarrr
quote:WR/PC to OC is a huge advancement - not a lateral move.
when he does leave it’s for an NFL job or to be a head coach, not a lateral move .
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