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re: Why are people worried Joe Brady won’t be here next year?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:44 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:44 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
"Why worry?"
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:46 am to bstew3006
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Brady will get OC position with $800-$1mm pay with 3/4 year contract.
If this offense finishes anywhere near the top 10 in the country, Brady is getting way more than that I can assure you.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:52 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Yes. It is EXACTLY that. It is one of the MOST common negotiation tactics in all levels of businesses. i.e., "Here is our signed offer with EVERYTHING you asked for... but we WILL NOT get into a bidding war. AND, we have a deal right now, or the offer is immediately withdrawn
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:52 am to bstew3006
Exactly. This is a two year plan.
E mentors Brady this year.
Next year Brady takes over with E monitoring and guiding as needed.
Following year E gets whatever role he wants or retires.
E mentors Brady this year.
Next year Brady takes over with E monitoring and guiding as needed.
Following year E gets whatever role he wants or retires.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:56 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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You could be right here again, but recent trends in coaching hires suggest otherwise. Kingsbury got fired by Texas Tech and hired as an NFL head coach, simply because he is a young offensive mind. I'm in no way suggesting that Brady will be Fielding NFL head coaching offers, but he perfectly fits the mold of what teams are looking to hire now.
I realize that you, specifically, are not saying there’s an apples-to-apples comparison between Joe Brady and Kliff Kingsbury. But I do think it’s worth mentioning the differences between their careers.
Kliff Kingsbury played quarterback at Texas Tech where he was an all-conference QB and won the AP national offensive player of the year award. He was drafted by the Patriots in 2006, 6th round. His career path following College was:
5 years - professional football player (NFL and CFL)
2 years - offensive quality control coach (University of Houston)
2 years - Co-OC and QB coach (University of Houston)
1 year - OC and QB coach (Texas A&M)
6 years - head coach (Texas Tech, his alma mater)
Current (1 year) - head coach (Arizona Cardinals)
He was 35 with 9 years post-college experience as a player and coach when he got his first “real” OC title, 36 when he became a head coach at Texas Tech.
Joe Brady played wide receiver at William & Mary. His career following college was:
2 years - LB coach (William & Mary)
2 years - graduate assistant (Penn State)
2 years - offensive analyst (New Orleans Saints)
Current (1 year) - passing game coordinator (LSU)
He is currently 29 years old with 6 years post-college experience.
It really is an apples-to-oranges comparison. Also keep in mind that even Kingsbury’s path was not the norm. I bring this up because I don’t think a successful power 5 program is going to get into a bidding war for Brady. An FCS or G5 school might. But if he takes a job like that and fails, it could ruin his career.
If I’m Joe Brady, I’m looking at this LSU gig as a HUGE opportunity. SE is going to retire soon, and there’s a very good chance Brady gets named Co-OC regardless. If he stays put he could be the OC at a legit powerhouse program, with basically unlimited talent, in his early 30’s. He has a chance to shoot up the coaching ladder even faster than Kingsbury, who had some pretty legit bona-fides (including a super bowl ring).
Alternatively, he can roll the dice and go to a program with less talent. Even if it’s all about the money, he can make more as a coordinator at LSU than he can as head coach at an FCS school. Oh - and he can compete for a national championship here. The smart move is to stick around, IMO.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:09 am to lostinbr
quote:The Michigan boards are drooling over Joe Brady. They paid Josh Gattis $900K (guaranteed - more in bonuses) to do at Michigan what Brady did at LSU. Gattis failed. Brady succeeded.
I bring this up because I don’t think a successful power 5 program is going to get into a bidding war for Brady.
Brady is the hottest young coach everywhere in the nation (except with a certain faction on the Rant)
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:11 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Brady is the hottest young coach everywhere in the nation
Don't disagree.
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(except with a certain faction on the Rant)
What faction is that?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:17 am to tigerintexas777
Because this board losing it’s collective fricking mind and thinks irrationally all the time. There is no reason for Brady to go anywhere and there is still plenty to prove. He will be paid, retained, and we will move forward. Let’s let the season play out and enjoy the ride before we worry about how we will retain a hypothetical OC. LSU has deeper pockets then nearly anyone in college football, and AD that isnt afraid to do what it takes to win (finally), and a ton of momentum. The obvious answer will present itself by the end of the season and it will be taken care of.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:23 am to dnm3305
quote:Where does this fallacy come from? Deep pockets? Of course. But EVERY major program in the country has billionaire Boosters.
LSU has deeper pockets then nearly anyone in college football,
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:23 am to tigerintexas777
Both Brady and Aranda have future as HC. Be real.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:38 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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The Michigan boards are drooling over Joe Brady. They paid Josh Gattis $900K (guaranteed - more in bonuses) to do at Michigan what Brady did at LSU. Gattis failed. Brady succeeded.
Josh Gattis was also an NFL player and had eight years of power 5 coaching experience (including Co-OC at Bama) before Michigan hired him.
So we’re clear, do you think Michigan is going to offer Joe Brady $1MM+ to be their OC after one year as passing game coordinator at LSU?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:50 pm to lostinbr
quote:If you read the Michigan boards, they wish like hell they had hired Brady over Gattis. (They apparently don't care where Brady went to school or worked)
So we’re clear, do you think Michigan is going to offer Joe Brady $1MM+ to be their OC after one year as passing game coordinator at LSU?
AND, if Harbaugh gets canned this season (strong possibility), they will go after Brady if they think they have any shot at all - wouldn't surprise me if they are already reaching out to Brady's allowable representatives.
And Michigan has enough billionaire boosters to buyout Gattis' contract with petty cash, if they think they can land Brady.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:23 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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AND, if Harbaugh gets canned this season (strong possibility), they will go after Brady if they think they have any shot at all - wouldn't surprise me if they are already reaching out to Brady's allowable representatives.
Wait, so you think Michigan is going to hire him as a head coach?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:33 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Where does this fallacy come from? Deep pockets? Of course. But EVERY major program in the country has billionaire Boosters.
Yea, that’s just completely false. There are maybe 10 programs in the country that can get into a bidding war with coaching salaries. It’s tiered, and LSU is in the top tier easily. No one is going to offer a coach with no OC experience top dollar market value that an elite OC would get, especially when he’s not even a true OC yet. Have you forgotten what we are paying or DC?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:23 pm to lostinbr
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Wait, so you think Michigan is going to hire him as a head coach?
quote:Wait. You think Gattis is Michigan's head coach.
Michigan has enough billionaire boosters to buyout Gattis' contract with petty cash,
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:26 pm to dnm3305
quote:Really? Name them.
Yea, that’s just completely false. There are maybe 10 programs in the country that can get into a bidding war with coaching salaries.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:56 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Wait. You think Gattis is Michigan's head coach.
You said if Harbaugh gets canned, Michigan will go after Brady. That means one of two things. You either believe:
1. Michigan is going to hire Joe Brady as head coach if Harbaugh gets canned, or
2. Michigan is going to pick their next head coach’s OC for him.
Which is it?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:59 pm to lostinbr
quote:You're joking, I hope.
Which is it?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:08 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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You're joking, I hope.
I’m asking a serious question. You said:
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AND, if Harbaugh gets canned this season (strong possibility), they will go after Brady if they think they have any shot at all - wouldn't surprise me if they are already reaching out to Brady's allowable representatives.
So if Michigan will go after Brady if Harbaugh gets canned, what position will they offer him?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:15 pm to tigerintexas777
Well, I just heard Kirk Herbstreit say Brady is going to be a Head Coach in a matter of years. So yeah, I do think it's important we lock him up. Some of you with your head in the sand need wake up.
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ETA: Ya'll need to realize that Brady is special and people know it.
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ETA: Ya'll need to realize that Brady is special and people know it.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 5:23 pm
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