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re: Why are people worried Joe Brady won’t be here next year?

Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:44 am to
"Why worry?"
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:46 am to
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Brady will get OC position with $800-$1mm pay with 3/4 year contract.



If this offense finishes anywhere near the top 10 in the country, Brady is getting way more than that I can assure you.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16627 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:52 am to
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Yes. It is EXACTLY that. It is one of the MOST common negotiation tactics in all levels of businesses. i.e., "Here is our signed offer with EVERYTHING you asked for... but we WILL NOT get into a bidding war. AND, we have a deal right now, or the offer is immediately withdrawn


Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2221 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:52 am to
Exactly. This is a two year plan.

E mentors Brady this year.

Next year Brady takes over with E monitoring and guiding as needed.

Following year E gets whatever role he wants or retires.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9341 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:56 am to
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You could be right here again, but recent trends in coaching hires suggest otherwise. Kingsbury got fired by Texas Tech and hired as an NFL head coach, simply because he is a young offensive mind. I'm in no way suggesting that Brady will be Fielding NFL head coaching offers, but he perfectly fits the mold of what teams are looking to hire now.

I realize that you, specifically, are not saying there’s an apples-to-apples comparison between Joe Brady and Kliff Kingsbury. But I do think it’s worth mentioning the differences between their careers.

Kliff Kingsbury played quarterback at Texas Tech where he was an all-conference QB and won the AP national offensive player of the year award. He was drafted by the Patriots in 2006, 6th round. His career path following College was:
5 years - professional football player (NFL and CFL)
2 years - offensive quality control coach (University of Houston)
2 years - Co-OC and QB coach (University of Houston)
1 year - OC and QB coach (Texas A&M)
6 years - head coach (Texas Tech, his alma mater)
Current (1 year) - head coach (Arizona Cardinals)
He was 35 with 9 years post-college experience as a player and coach when he got his first “real” OC title, 36 when he became a head coach at Texas Tech.

Joe Brady played wide receiver at William & Mary. His career following college was:
2 years - LB coach (William & Mary)
2 years - graduate assistant (Penn State)
2 years - offensive analyst (New Orleans Saints)
Current (1 year) - passing game coordinator (LSU)
He is currently 29 years old with 6 years post-college experience.

It really is an apples-to-oranges comparison. Also keep in mind that even Kingsbury’s path was not the norm. I bring this up because I don’t think a successful power 5 program is going to get into a bidding war for Brady. An FCS or G5 school might. But if he takes a job like that and fails, it could ruin his career.

If I’m Joe Brady, I’m looking at this LSU gig as a HUGE opportunity. SE is going to retire soon, and there’s a very good chance Brady gets named Co-OC regardless. If he stays put he could be the OC at a legit powerhouse program, with basically unlimited talent, in his early 30’s. He has a chance to shoot up the coaching ladder even faster than Kingsbury, who had some pretty legit bona-fides (including a super bowl ring).

Alternatively, he can roll the dice and go to a program with less talent. Even if it’s all about the money, he can make more as a coordinator at LSU than he can as head coach at an FCS school. Oh - and he can compete for a national championship here. The smart move is to stick around, IMO.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:09 am to
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I bring this up because I don’t think a successful power 5 program is going to get into a bidding war for Brady.
The Michigan boards are drooling over Joe Brady. They paid Josh Gattis $900K (guaranteed - more in bonuses) to do at Michigan what Brady did at LSU. Gattis failed. Brady succeeded.

Brady is the hottest young coach everywhere in the nation (except with a certain faction on the Rant)
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:11 am to
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Brady is the hottest young coach everywhere in the nation


Don't disagree.

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(except with a certain faction on the Rant)


What faction is that?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13568 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:17 am to
Because this board losing it’s collective fricking mind and thinks irrationally all the time. There is no reason for Brady to go anywhere and there is still plenty to prove. He will be paid, retained, and we will move forward. Let’s let the season play out and enjoy the ride before we worry about how we will retain a hypothetical OC. LSU has deeper pockets then nearly anyone in college football, and AD that isnt afraid to do what it takes to win (finally), and a ton of momentum. The obvious answer will present itself by the end of the season and it will be taken care of.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:23 am to
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LSU has deeper pockets then nearly anyone in college football,
Where does this fallacy come from? Deep pockets? Of course. But EVERY major program in the country has billionaire Boosters.

Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:23 am to
Both Brady and Aranda have future as HC. Be real.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9341 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:38 am to
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The Michigan boards are drooling over Joe Brady. They paid Josh Gattis $900K (guaranteed - more in bonuses) to do at Michigan what Brady did at LSU. Gattis failed. Brady succeeded.

Josh Gattis was also an NFL player and had eight years of power 5 coaching experience (including Co-OC at Bama) before Michigan hired him.

So we’re clear, do you think Michigan is going to offer Joe Brady $1MM+ to be their OC after one year as passing game coordinator at LSU?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:50 pm to
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So we’re clear, do you think Michigan is going to offer Joe Brady $1MM+ to be their OC after one year as passing game coordinator at LSU?

If you read the Michigan boards, they wish like hell they had hired Brady over Gattis. (They apparently don't care where Brady went to school or worked)

AND, if Harbaugh gets canned this season (strong possibility), they will go after Brady if they think they have any shot at all - wouldn't surprise me if they are already reaching out to Brady's allowable representatives.

And Michigan has enough billionaire boosters to buyout Gattis' contract with petty cash, if they think they can land Brady.

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9341 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:23 pm to
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AND, if Harbaugh gets canned this season (strong possibility), they will go after Brady if they think they have any shot at all - wouldn't surprise me if they are already reaching out to Brady's allowable representatives.

Wait, so you think Michigan is going to hire him as a head coach?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13568 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Where does this fallacy come from? Deep pockets? Of course. But EVERY major program in the country has billionaire Boosters.


Yea, that’s just completely false. There are maybe 10 programs in the country that can get into a bidding war with coaching salaries. It’s tiered, and LSU is in the top tier easily. No one is going to offer a coach with no OC experience top dollar market value that an elite OC would get, especially when he’s not even a true OC yet. Have you forgotten what we are paying or DC?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Wait, so you think Michigan is going to hire him as a head coach?

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Michigan has enough billionaire boosters to buyout Gattis' contract with petty cash,
Wait. You think Gattis is Michigan's head coach.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:26 pm to
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Yea, that’s just completely false. There are maybe 10 programs in the country that can get into a bidding war with coaching salaries.
Really? Name them.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9341 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:56 pm to
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Wait. You think Gattis is Michigan's head coach.

You said if Harbaugh gets canned, Michigan will go after Brady. That means one of two things. You either believe:

1. Michigan is going to hire Joe Brady as head coach if Harbaugh gets canned, or

2. Michigan is going to pick their next head coach’s OC for him.

Which is it?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:59 pm to
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Which is it?

You're joking, I hope.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9341 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:08 pm to
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You're joking, I hope.

I’m asking a serious question. You said:
quote:

AND, if Harbaugh gets canned this season (strong possibility), they will go after Brady if they think they have any shot at all - wouldn't surprise me if they are already reaching out to Brady's allowable representatives.

So if Michigan will go after Brady if Harbaugh gets canned, what position will they offer him?
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35260 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:15 pm to
Well, I just heard Kirk Herbstreit say Brady is going to be a Head Coach in a matter of years. So yeah, I do think it's important we lock him up. Some of you with your head in the sand need wake up.

LINK

ETA: Ya'll need to realize that Brady is special and people know it.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 5:23 pm
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