re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

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At least I’m not taking vastly different sample sizes

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Sadly, with fewer games Miles lost more than Orgeron.

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Go back and give Les games in 2013, his winning pctg is still worse than Orgerons

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So Orgeron is slightly better than the stretch that got Miles fired.

I guess I should digress. We’re clearly in great hands.

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Sadly, with fewer games Miles lost more than Orgeron.

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Correct. Miles lost 3 more games over a 34 game stretch and got fired.

Pat on the back for Edward.

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So Orgeron is slightly bette

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In football that's not merely slightly.

We are making progress.

Yes, we gave improved since the Miles Era.

2019 will leave no doubt

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Well fuq it.....lets just bring back your hero so we can watch that awesome offense jet up and down the fking field scoring points at will, zinging accurate passes everywhere, and leaping tall buildings in a single bound.

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Well frick Red, nobody's claiming they want Les back. That's just crazy talk.

All I'm doing is stating the fact that we're still losing 3 games (or more) a season and losing games we shouldn't.

So It's just like I said, not much better (in mu opinion) than what we were doing when Miles was here.

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Losing to Arky at home when everything is on the line is not the mark of a great coach. Not to mention shitting the bed at KY...fking KY...are you kidding me?
Sorry this derails your narrative. but it happened...fact.

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It appears that context only applies when Orgeron's head coaching career is being judged.

LSU came out the 2007 season gate thrashing Miss St 45-0, #8 VA Tech 48-7 and Middle Tenn 44-0. They went on to beat #12 South Carolina, #9 Florida, #18 Auburn and #17 Alabama. LSU won the SEC West and beat #14 Tennessee in the SEC Championship game. They ended the 2007 season with a win over #1 Ohio State in the NCG and Miles became a National Championship winning Head Coach.

Now, the 2 losses that concern you so much were a 3 OT loss to a #17 ranked Kentucky team and another 3 OT loss to Arkansas.

That year Miles beat 7 Top 25 teams, 3 Top 10 teams, won an SEC Title and brought a NC Title back to Baton Rouge............ But since Miles lost 2 SEC games with 6 combined OT's and 8 total points, he shite the bed and isn't a great coach.

This is the type of shite that Miles put up with his entire tenure here at LSU. It's incomprehensible that a coach who won at such a high level could receive such pathetic fan support. Miles accomplished more in the 2007 season than Orgeron has in his entire head coaching career. Yet, we are in a thread where some people are asserting that Orgeron is exceeding expectations while simultaneously claiming he's an upgrade from Miles.

Un-fricking-Believable

Miles and his 2007 team actually exceeded expectations but some fans dislike Miles so much that the 2 tripple OT losses outweigh a National Championship. Truly astounding.

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Yes, we gave improved since the Miles Era. 2019 will leave no doubt

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2019 is poised to be a big year. If LSU loses theee next year, then the Rant has a beef. 2016’s offensive recruiting class was deplorable, we should finally recover this year.

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2019 is poised to be a big year. If LSU loses theee next year, then the Rant has a beef. 2016’s offensive recruiting class was deplorable, we should finally recover this year.

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Totally agree

shite, I always got excited in the offseason regardless of how the orevious ended. It's what fans do

There are going to be some miserable bitches this fall I believe, when LSU pushes for the West.

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Miles wasn't fired for the "Miles era" Miles was fired for the 2014, 2015 and 2016 seasons.

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Your words:

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Yes, we gave improved since the Miles Era.

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Do you need me to explain what the Miles Era is again, or would you like to amend your statement to something more accurate, like:

"Yes, we have improved since the tail end of the Miles Era, which was the worst stretch of his time at LSU."

If not, then let's not act like 10-3 is "improved since the Miles Era".

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So It's just like I said, not much better (in mu opinion) than what we were doing when Miles was here.

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But we're headed in a much much much better trajectory than we were with Miles at the end and thats what I hang my hat on.

I swear to god Earl some of these silly fricks are scared...to....death that O might somehow turn this team around and actually accomplish something for fear that it might somehow belittle what Miles accomplished.

Insecure as hell and deathly afraid. Comparing these two coaches is absolutely fking ridiculous.

The college game was completely different when Miles took over than it is today with O at the helm...apples and oranges and yet, here we are having a dick measuring contest over who did what in some god damned season.

Its stupid. People should be happy that we're moving in a positive direction. Instead, lets fking tear down O....who's been here all of 2 and half years and got hired by a dumbass who didnt make a thorough search and also by the way...doesnt work here anymore. Also lets blame O for getting the job he wanted.....he should have turned it down when they offered....am I doing this right?

I mean, where do some of these people come from?

The way I see it is this.....Les gave us nothing but frustration and hand-wringing for a hell of a long time.....O has given some hope at the very least. He should be given credit for that even if we didnt want him here to start with.