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re: Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?

Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:21 pm to
Todd Kinchen was a "freak".
He was SEC offensive player of the year as a non-qb or rb.
He was possibly the quickest (as opposed to raw speed) player in LSU history.
He could change direction and cut on a dime.
He was a GREAT leaper, and leapt over opponents regularly.
What he did to Texas A & M was criminal.
His play against Vandy (freaking refs) was larcenous.
He was the first player in NFL history to score a td on a kickoff return AND a punt return in the SAME GAME and did it against a really strong SF 49ers team.
He could do a 360 reverse dunk as a sophmore in HS and was recruited by every major program in the country (Indiana NC) as a basketball player. He led his team to a state Championship in basketball.
He hit around 500 as a HS baseball player and led his HS to a state championship in that spot as well.
He lasted about 8/9 years in the NFL.

I think that a lot of people who weren't connected to the program never realized what this guy could do.If he played in a Crowton-type offense he would have done legendary things.

I do not know if he was our last "freak" but he was a freak.
His skill set was really unusual, unlike Eddie Kennison or others who relied on world class speed, he did it with white boy jukes and crazy angles and cuts.

He was a once-in-a-lifetime-athlete.
Posted by King Joey
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:21 pm to
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didn't he play like 3 positions including CB?
5, actually, if you include kick returning. He played (at various times) RB, WR, Safety and CB as well as returning kicks. But what was his 40 time at the combine (since they can't be a "freak", apparently, unless their 40 time at the combine impresses you).

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:21 pm to
because thats who i was talking about and u repsonded to me. Forgive me
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:22 pm to
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i don't think landry was that freakish


You still can't give your clear definition of what a "freak athlete" is...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:22 pm to
well JR was freakish, but *i* don't generally lump arm strength in my analysis. you all are free to do so
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Todd Kinchen was a "freak".

he was before my time, but that clip of him against TAMU (i think) was pretty impressive
Posted by Gmorgan4982
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:23 pm to
You're just upset because you got it wrong.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:23 pm to
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i don't think landry was that freakish

if he had another 15 lbs and still had the same stats, i'd agree with landry in a heartbeat

landry is a freak for LSU but not objectively. addai was right on par with landry


but you just said in response to:

"people who run 4.35, 38" vert and 10-6 broad jumps dont really grow on trees."

quote:

that's what makes them freaks

if they were common, it would just be another guy




so you are saying because of his weight, he cant be a freak??


how much faster, more explosive, can you get? regardless of weight?

Posted by Ice Cold
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Todd Kinchen was a "freak".
I agree. That punt return (A&M?) was outrageous. But he wasn't 6-3, 240, with a 4.27, so he doesn't meet this thread's standards.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

You still can't give your clear definition of what a "freak athlete" is...

quick

strong (18-20+ reps of 225)

sub 4.4 at 225+

vertical over 35"

broad over 10-0
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

well JR was freakish, but *i* don't generally lump arm strength in my analysis. you all are free to do so


he was "freakish" not only because of his arm strength but for his sheer athletic ability for someone being that fricking big.

remember the flip jump he did on the sideline?
Posted by Chd1478
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:26 pm to
Kevin Faulk
"5-8, 200 lb guy running a 4.45? naw"

Saw him in person while I was a student at many LSU basketball games.

He was probably more like 5-6. He was not 5-8
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

so you are saying because of his weight, he cant be a freak??

well i'd think that your 6-0 WR/CB/S type athletes would have to be faster to be a "freak"

there are 6-0/205 types who put up those triangle numbers every years. usually at least a handful
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

You're just upset because you got it wrong.


Posted by Tiger4Ever
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:27 pm to
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quick

strong (18-20+ reps of 225)

sub 4.4 at 225+

vertical over 35"

broad over 10-0



If I had these measurables, I wouldn't even play football. I'd just hang out and wait for the combine.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:28 pm to
oh JR was no slouch. he ran like a 4.85 at 260 and was light/quick on his feet

but if you take away the arm strength he's comparable to david jones or robert royal
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:28 pm to
I still say Emily Turner
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:28 pm to


Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

sub 4.4 at 225+


you have to be big to be a freak??
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

quick


how do you measure "quick" ?

quote:

strong (18-20+ reps of 225)


who came up with 225?

quote:

sub 4.4 at 225+


so this "freak" has to weigh more than 225?

quote:

vertical over 35"


ok...

quote:

broad over 10-0


ok...

so in conclusion, there are none that exist.

care to name any other freaks from other schools that meet these reqs?
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