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re: Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:08 pm to Gmorgan4982
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:08 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Just ask him how we should figure out the national champions.
mostly statistical analysis, like judging athleticism for the most part
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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f you're going to say spears i'm going to say tyson and win
See, this just goes straight to how much BS you're running when you say you want discussion. You don't. You want to "win". I'm not sure what you will win or even that we were competing.
I agree. Tyson is an awesome athlete as well. So were Bowe and Clayton. How is this losing? I'm pretty stoked we get awesome athletes. And make no mistake, LSU gets some of the very best athletes in the country.
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:08 pm to TheDoc
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quick
how do you measure "quick" ?
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strong (18-20+ reps of 225)
who came up with 225?
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sub 4.4 at 225+
so this "freak" has to weigh more than 225?
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vertical over 35"
ok...
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broad over 10-0
ok...
so in conclusion, there are none that exist.
care to name any other freaks from other schools that meet these reqs?
SC - Taylor Mays.
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:In what way? Dominick Davis, Kevin Faulk, Corey Webster . . . they all had success at multiple athletic positions and none of them had the measurables you claim are necessary to be "freaks."
i don't know this has ever been established
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yeah ... judging, voting, picking, choosing ... stuff where opinions outweigh results.
mostly statistical analysis, like judging athleticism for the most part
That's why this whole thread is silly.
This post was edited on 8/9/09 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:10 pm to Baloo
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See, this just goes straight to how much BS you're running when you say you want discussion.
not really
i don't think EITHER were freaks
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:10 pm to Gmorgan4982
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stuff where opinions outweigh results.
results create opinion
your results are what puts you in the right spot
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you need to be a good athlete to play football, but you can be 1 without the other
You have to be one to be the other, but you can be 1 without the other? Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:11 pm to King Joey
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they all had success at multiple athletic positions
webster failed at one and was moved to another
DD and Faulk are PR guys who had a more defined other position
and we have physical measurements of all 3 guys and none would be "freaks" to me
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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mainly b/c we don't know what cassanova's testing was and how it compared to his peers
Playing running back, punt returner, kick returner, and defensive back.
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In 1972, Casanova was drafted in Round 2, pick 29 by the Cincinnati Bengals. He played safety for the Bengals from 1972 to 1977, being selected to the Pro Bowl in 1974, 1975, 1976, and 1977. Known as a faster than average, hard-hitting free safety, Casanova also collected 17 career interceptions, in what is considered a short career.
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In the September 13, 1971 issue of Sports Illustrated, the magazine featured Casanova on the front cover, with the headline: "Tommy Casanova of LSU, Best Player in the Nation."
You could make a list, Stovall, Cannon, Taylor, Casanova, Kinchen and a bunch more would be on it.
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:12 pm to King Joey
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You have to be one to be the other, but you can be 1 without the other?
you can be a good football player without being a great athlete
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:16 pm to Baloo
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you say you want discussion. You don't. You want to "win".
This is the perfect synopsis for every SFP thread ever posted on the Rant.
Can't see why more posters don't realize this.
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
anthony randolph
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you can be a good player and mediocre athlete
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you can be a good athlete and mediocre player
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you can be 1 without the other
quote:but,
you can be a good football player without being a great athlete
quote:So, you need to be a good athlete to play football at all, but you can be a mediocre athlete and be a good player.
you need to be a good athlete to play football
Can you be a great player and not be a great athlete? Can you be a great athlete and a mediocre player? Or can only good athletes be mediocre players? How about mediocre athletes? Can they be mediocre players, too, or can they only be good players? And what kind of players are the good athletes? Mediocre?
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:21 pm to LSUDad
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Known as a faster than average
Fah-reek
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:26 pm to KGSoloMan5000
I started out in this thread with some hope that it would be interesting, but ended up being more confused than ever.
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree Tyson is more explosive, but Spears was a great basketball player.
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:29 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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I started out in this thread with some hope that it would be interesting, but ended up being more confused than ever.
just know that Steven Korte is the freakiest athlete to ever play at LSU
Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't have any measurables, so I'm not sure that I can debate it in any way, but Michael Brooks would fall into my freak category, in a Lawrence Taylor kind of way.
I also witnessed Oliver Lawrence pull from the TE position on multiple designed plays in high school. Unfortunately got to see it first hand in the playoffs from the opposite sideline.
He was an All-State TE,DE, too. Nice guy, had some classes with him later at LSU.
I also witnessed Oliver Lawrence pull from the TE position on multiple designed plays in high school. Unfortunately got to see it first hand in the playoffs from the opposite sideline.
He was an All-State TE,DE, too. Nice guy, had some classes with him later at LSU.Posted on 8/9/09 at 2:43 pm to Lester Earl
Bennie Brazell brah
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