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re: Who says we cant get someone better than Miles? Coaches with better winning...

Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Still plenty of coaches that are worth a gamble, especially if we believe Les is not capable of winning a title again. IMO the risk of a slight slip is worth it if we don't feel like Les is going to win a nc again.


how bout graham from ASU???
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59247 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:23 pm to
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LSU wanted a proven Head coach and that's why we passed on fisher...... My question what the hell did miles prove at OSU... that he could beat OU. ( golf clap)


Well...that's kinda everyone's question.

We missed the boat on Jimbo. Fact.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:24 pm to
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you want to troll and throw shite around like usual.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Gary Patterson
This is such a popular name on tRant. Can you even imagine the fvcking retards on this board if LSU went 4-8, like Patterson did last season in the Big 12?!
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:24 pm to
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And does your criteria for Miles include his LSU win/loss record?


Why, when discussing the criteria TO get someone hired at LSU would we include their LSU win totals?

If we are replacing Miles, why would we include him?

he was left off the list for that reason.

I only used his time at OkieState because thats where he was a coach before LSU. You know, before LSU hired him, like it would be for the people on the list?

I know you're smarter than this...geesh.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:24 pm to
Your list is so stupid that it isn't worth addressing, but I'll do it anyway.


Hudspeth? Forgive me for not wanting our team to be a Tuesday night staple
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85136 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:25 pm to
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Can you even imagine the fvcking retards on this board if LSU went 4-8, like Patterson did last season in the Big 12?!


dude

the Rant is too reactionary to think beyond what happened last week

much less what happened last year
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:26 pm to
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We missed the boat on Jimbo. Fact.



Thank God
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76147 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:26 pm to
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There are Boises, and Cincinnatis, and Louisville's on there too.

FAIL, pumper.


You can't even compare those teams to Oklahoma State when miles for there.

Look at boise state's record before peterson got there. Dan Hawkins was 53-11, and then Dan Hawkins go skull dragged at Colorado. Peterson is 6-5 at Washington.

Som of these coaches we have seen at big time schools, or play in the SEC. Petrino's defenses and recruiting are a joke. Pellmell is still picking up the pieces over there.

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Thats not what I said. The point is Miles isnt nearly as irreplaceable as the pumpers claim.


No you think a better winning percentage at School X will always translate at LSU, and it doesn't. Some people get worse when they bump up to the SEC. (Dooley, Sumlin,) You can't compare them to LEs at Oklahoma State, you can only compare them to him now. Just having a better winning percentage at your old job doesn't mean you can win at LSU.

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recently, that has been opposite. See Miles, Saban, Malzahn, Mullen, Stoops, etc.




You want to talk fail? Stoops and Mullen had never had a head coaching job before coming to the SEC. But i guarantee you Stoops had a better record as DC at Florida State. And I Guarantee you Mullen had a better record as OC at Florida.

Also when you are talking about how some people succeed in the SEC, Don't use the guy you are advocating the firing of as an example. When you can come up with fricking 3 examples and 1 of those three is Les Miles.

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It's a factual list. Im sorry they hurt your delusional mind.


Its a factual list, comparing oranges to zebras. Your basic premise is flawed no matter how much data you have to support the fact that Les Miles didn't have a great winning percentage at Oklahoma State.

Never mind Oklahoma State was a fricking joke before he got there.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Your list is so stupid that it isn't worth addressing,


How are facts, "stupid"?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33039 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:27 pm to
Yeah that's why I can't jive with this turkey. You can't blast Miles for his record here and not include it when putting him up head to head against other coaches.

I see like 4-5 sure things on that list that I'd feel 100% confident in the direction of the program under their leadership, but that's assuming they'd sign on.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:27 pm to
I think Graham would be a great choice to replace miles. I lean back on Schiano first though because he has been successful, made the jump the NFL and failed so he is likely to turn into the next Saban at the right program.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Member since Dec 2003
14184 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:28 pm to
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How are facts, "stupid"?


Because you might as well put people like J.T. Curtis on your list.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:28 pm to
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You can't even compare those teams to Oklahoma State when miles for there.




all 70 on the list?



keep pumpin that shine!
Posted by Pritcharddane
El Dorado Ar
Member since Aug 2009
124 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:28 pm to
My prediction is if Miles continues to struggle and gets fired we get Pete Carrol in 2 or 3 years.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:28 pm to
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IMO the risk of a slight slip is worth it if we don't feel like Les is going to win a nc again.


The problem is it won't necessarily be a small slip. I'm sure UF thought they had their guy and that he couldn't really bring the program down that much with all the resources at Florida.

It's not that you can't do better, it's that you have to be sure you have your guy that will most likely get you to championships already lined up if you want to even consider firing Miles with his track record.

I'm still not sure it's worth the downside risk. That POV varies depending on if you think Miles will adjust and he the program back on its elite track.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:28 pm to
How many of your coaches moved on to a more high profile job and maintained or grew their winning percentages? Because that's what miles has done
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
750 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:28 pm to
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1. A lot of these coaches are at elite programs, so comparing them to 2001 Oklahoma State is dumb

2. Also implying we could go get Urban Meyer or Jimbo Fisher or Bob Stoops or Night Saban is dumb.

3. there are a lot of coaches that have WORSE winning percentages after they move to the SEC than before . But we assume they would just step in and dominate every single year.



This list is stupid as frick for the following reasons:

1. More of those coaches aren't at elite programs or they are the coaches responsible for making those teams elite.

2. We could have had Jimbo Fisher you moron. Bob Stoops is a possible get and is being talked about for the Florida job. He is becoming the Miles of Oklahoma so I don't know why we would want him.

3. It's not like we are Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Tennessee or some other state that doesn't have direct access to top talent. Saying that a coach who is beast f-ing other teams in an other conference wouldn't do equal or better with a team that is more talented than 90% or more of the team it plays is retarded.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33039 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:28 pm to
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My prediction is if Miles continues to struggle and gets fired we get Pete Carrol in 2 or 3 years.


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Pritcharddane


Go DIAF
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2526 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:29 pm to
You do realize the NCAA is investigating Oklahoma st for violations and payoffs during miles realm huh ?
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