re: Who here believes Cam Cameron is a bad OC?

Ok, that seems beyond possible. However, anything positive is viewed as Cameron's doing and anything negative is Miles' fault according to the fan base. Can't we conclude at this point that both may be poor, and the system together or if it is just Cam, is not optimizing the potential of the LSU offense. I will tell you that this offense looks like a Cameron offense. From what we know about Les, it also resembles what we believe to be his influence. They learned how to coach football from the same man. It's not that unlikely that they agree on many points.

Every offensive coordinator Les has had calls the toss dive play?

I think Cam was brought in to develop QBs and not have complete control over his unit.

Cam calls the plays as apart of LSUS philosophy.Crowton in 07 was the last OC that was allowed to run wild.

The most frustrating part of LSUS offense is the lack of trust in the players and lack of sense of urgency. It takes 30 seconds to get the play in completely with the automatic check with me. Harris usually has 4 or 5 seconds to actually scan the field, call the cadence then hike the ball. It's just all very weird

Pretty bad. And if he is not allowed to do anything by being handcuffed by Miles, then he is worst by allowing it to happen.

I think his system takes too long for college QBs to learn.

The turnover rate is such that you can't spend 3 years trying to learn a system. It needs to be way simpler.

I was watchign McElwain breaking down film on SECNetwork, and they were highlighting plays they were running to put their QB in a good position, and i don't see that at LSU.

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And opening drive of the 2nd half. Good balance and some good routes. Those were the only 2 drives that looked like we had a plan. The one in the first half was due to tempo.

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Its so frustrating, knowing the potential.

Miles says yes or no to what play hits the field. He and Cam talk about a plan, then in game Miles goes with what he knows...MICHIGAN RUN RUN RUN OFFENSE. Bo jr

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It's maddening that they finally had something Arkansas couldn't stop and quit doing up tempo... why not do it until they stopped it? Nothing else was working. But, this has happened before with this team, shouldn't have been surprised.

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The up-tempo offense also worked better than anything else we tried vs Bama. However, justified or not, I think the stress on an already over-taxed D is what keeps them from running more of it. Our D looked better at the ends of the earlier games because the offense controlled the clock and kept them from having to live on the field.

I think Cam was a good hire AT THE TIME. Think back to Stud's last offense in 2012. It was a dysfunctional mess with no creativity whatsoever. He was definitely an improvement over that, and 2013 proved it.

However, Cam's output looks stale at this point. I think DCs have figured him out and his system also asks too much of your average college QB. We need someone who can run a creative offense that that can be tailored to be personnel that we have. Right now, we are running an offense that only works under a certain set of conditions. Get outside of those conditions, and the damn bottom falls out.

It's hard to say, because Jennings and Harris are such terrible passers. Those two will NEVER be good passers, no matter who works with them or how much they practice. It's so frustrating that we have a 4 star sophomore QB who still can't complete a screen pass to his RB. That simple play could have made a huge difference in the past two losses. I think Cam works with the players he has available. He knows his QBs' limitations, and I'm sure his play calling takes that into account.

In my opinion, he's like the cat that ate the canary, only the canary is his $1.5 million a year. The lack of QB development is on him. The trouble getting plays called and the confusion we see regularly are on him. He's the OC of a regressing offense for the second consecutive year. The year with Mett, Odell, Jarvis, and Jeremy Hill even he couldn't screw up. As good as that offense was, I feel it underachieved.