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re: Where does Derek Curiel rank among best LSU freshmen?

Posted on 6/24/25 at 11:58 am to
Posted by PurplePete1997
BATON ROUGE
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 11:58 am to
Winning a Natty + all tournament team + better stats on the season clears batting .500 winning a regional.

If you know anything about baseball…
Posted by warm
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:01 pm to
For sure Curiel is in the top 10, maybe top 5, but not over Walker who would be my #1. Alex Lange may be the most impressive as a freshman pitcher.
Blake Dean hit 20HR and was over .350 avg as a freshman. Bregman set the single season hits record as a freshman
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:11 pm to
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If you know anything about baseball…


It’s obvious that you don’t. Curiel had Anderson, Eyanson, and a dang near perfect infield helping his team win 1-0 games.

Crews had pitchers like Mikhail Hilliard and Javen Coleman backed up with infielders that “played on turf in high school so let’s start them in the regional” trying to hold the other teams down.

It’s a real shame that Crews didn’t pitch a shutout against Tennessee in the super regional to go along with his home run at the plate. It’s obviously up to the outfielder to do it all.
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 12:14 pm
Posted by notbilly
alter
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:17 pm to
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This seems to be a conversation about individual accomplishments.

The natty can come up in a conversation about team accomplishments.


I mentioned it b/c OP listed a natty as one of Curiel's accomplishments.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:49 pm to
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. So using “Curiel won a ring” doesn’t fly.



Correct we not talking rings we talking numbers
Posted by cubsfinger
On The Road
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:57 pm to
He was a year older than my brother. I was always a fan and got to see him hit a long home run at Salmen. I’m also a Cubs fan so seeing him and Theriot was a dream as a young ball player.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:58 pm to
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It’s a real shame that Crews didn’t pitch a shutout against Tennessee in the super regional to go along with his home run at the plate.

He hit more than one against Tennessee
Posted by PurplePete1997
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:58 pm to
So you're saying Crews was the better freshman because his teammates were not as good as Curiel's?

Did you know Curiel doesn't get to bring a teammate or pitcher with him up to bat? What does the starting pitchers have to do with offensive stats?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71361 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:00 pm to
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What does the starting pitchers have to do with offensive stats?

His offensive stats weren’t better though
Posted by PurplePete1997
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:14 pm to
Did you know there are other stats tracked besides HR’s?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71361 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:15 pm to
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you know there are other stats tracked besides HR’s?

I do. Why don’t you put all of them side by side.
Posted by Ranger Call
Lonesome Dove / Montana
Member since Apr 2023
674 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:18 pm to
Speaking of that era, a freshman Blair Barbier wants to have a seat at the table:

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A 2002 graduate of LSU with a degree in finance, Barbier was a two-time member of the SEC Academic Honor Roll. He was named Freshman all-America and all-SEC in 1997 after batting .353 with 23 doubles, 15 homers and 57 RBI.
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
8050 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:27 pm to
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I do. Why don’t you put all of them side by side.



They had a similar batting average. The same amount of hits. Curiel had more RBI, more doubles. They're in this thread.
Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
1319 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:27 pm to
Todd Walker is the answer…if you didn’t know it’s because you weren’t alive.
Posted by joe8 7
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Nov 2005
859 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:46 pm to
DJ LeMahieu was solid as well.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
8084 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:53 pm to
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They had a similar batting average. The same amount of hits. Curiel had more RBI, more doubles. They're in this thread.

Crews was the solo homerun king his freshman year. RBI is a decent stat for hitting with runners in scoring position, but doesn’t tell the whole story. For instance, how many chances did each have to drive runs in?
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
4441 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:55 pm to
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What does the starting pitchers have to do with offensive stats?
had nothing to do with it but you’re the one who brought the ring argument (which is a team accomplishment btw) into it. the talent of pitchers curiel had on his roster compared to crews freshmen season isn’t even in the same stratosphere. do you think this team doesn’t win a natty this year if you replace freshmen crews with Curiel?
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:57 pm to
Lane Mestepey & Mikie Mahtook need to be on the All-Freshman team for LSU.

Lane 2001 season
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True freshman sensation who developed into LSU’s top starting pitcher … 11-3 W-L record with a 3.75 ERA in 22 appearances (19 starts) … in 139.1 innings, he allowed 158 hits and 77 runs (58 earned) with 37 walks and 79 strikeouts … 7-3 in SEC regular-season games with a 3.30 ERA in 79 innings … finished No. 1 in the SEC in wins, starts and innings pitched, No. 6 in strikeouts, No. 8 in ERA, pitched brilliantly in LSU’s NCAA Super Regional (Game 1) win over Tulane (June 1), allowing just three runs on 11 hits in 10 innings with one walk and six strikeouts … named to the NCAA Baton Rouge Regional all-tournament team after pitching the Tigers to victory over Virginia Commonwealth (May 27) in the regional title game … worked 6.1 innings against VCU — on just one day’s rest after pitching 5.2 innings vs. Minnesota — limiting the Rams to four earned runs on seven hits with one walk and one strikeout … enjoyed two outstanding outings in the SEC Tournament, defeating Ole Miss (May 17) as a starter (6 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 1 BB 4 SO) and working in relief against Mississippi State (May 20 – 4 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 SO) … named SEC Pitcher of the Week on April 16 after a complete-game victory over Ole Miss the day before, limiting the Rebels to two earned runs on three hits with no walks and two strikeouts … defeated Alabama (April 27) with a complete-game four-hitter, limiting the Crimson Tide to one earned run with two walk and six strikeouts … posted a complete-game win over Kentucky (March 30, as he limited the Wildcats to one earned run on nine hits with one walk and five strikeouts … defeated Mississippi State (March 24), allowing one earned run on six hits in 8.1 innings with no walks and six strikeouts … defeated South Carolina (April 6), allowing three runs on seven hits in 8.0 innings with four walks and four strikeouts … also posted a win over Florida (March 17), limiting the Gators to three runs on 10 hits in 7.1 innings with three walks and three Ks.


Mikie Mahtook Freshman year
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Played in 63 games (49 starts), batting .316 (62-for-196) with eight doubles, three triples, seven homers, 38 RBI, 41 runs and nine steals … hit .339 (21-for-62) with runners in scoring position … hit .319 (22-for-69) in LSU’s 17 postseason games with two doubles, one homer, 12 RBI and 10 runs … hit .296 (8-for-27) in the College World Series with one double, one homer, seven RBI and five runs … provided the game-winning single in the top of the 11th inning in Game 1 of the CWS Finals versus Texas (June 22), as the Tigers posted a thrilling 7-6 victory … unloaded a homer while collecting three RBI and two runs in CWS win over Arkansas (June 15) … 2009 SEC Tournament Most Valuable Player – hit .455 (10-for-22) in the tournament with three RBI and two runs … 2-for-4 with two homers, four RBI and two runs on March 25 versus Harvard, his first game as LSU’s everyday starter in center field.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30590 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Blake Dean hit 20HR and was over .350 avg as a freshman.
You must be thinking of his sophomore year, his freshman season was nowhere near that.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30590 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:01 pm to
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Winning a Natty + all tournament team + better stats on the season clears batting .500 winning a regional.

If you know anything about baseball…
His stats on the season aren’t better…if you know anything about baseball.
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