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Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:00 pm to UpToPar
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But, to more directly answer your question, I think we would have had a realistic shot at guys like Fleck, Gundy, and Brohm, and I would take any of those three over Orgeron.
Any of the 3 plus Herman and Jimbo would be dealing with the same shite that O is dealing with including the expectations being low for a win at Bama. All would be underdogs. Everyone that plays Bama is an underdog. 2015 was the last time they weren't the favorite and before that it was 2009. Losing against Bama should never be acceptable but the odds are it is to be expected.
I'm neither a lover or hater of O and most of the criticisms are justifiable but, he has rebounded this team when they could have easily folded up and shut down. That's being said, this team looked bad early on for various reasons but is playing some good ball going into the bye.
Support the team and quit pushing your shitting agendas.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:05 pm to UpToPar
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One has a NC under his name and the other took over a bad Texas program.
And the NC winning coach has beat Wake Forest and Duke this year. both wins were by 7 points. But, since Duke and Wake Forest have so much more talent than a Florida State team, it is understandable. FSU needs to whup that fan's arse and give Jimbo a huge raise.
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the other took over a bad Texas program
His wins over San Jose State and Iowa State are amazing. Can you imagine what will happen when Texas has more talent than those juggernauts? It's scary to think of right now. I think gay guy is like 40-0 as an underdog against ranked teams now.
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Orgeron was a career 10-25 coach when we hired him
And is 6-2 and 3-1 in the SEC. Imagine that.
Jimbo and kissing bandit kicking arse while LSU has to settle for a coach who is 3-1 in his conference?
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In no world did Orgeron have a better resume than Jimbo or Herman.
Not even this season? Jimbo's two wins are against Wake and Duke by 7 points each. Gay guy's 3 wins are against San Jose State, Iowa St and Kansas State in overtime.
Now I realize those guys don't have near the talent of the teams they beat so what they have done is really pretty amazing.
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He's the coach at Minnesota. A little more difficult to win there, dont you think? He also hasn't lost to a team as bad as Troy.
Oh, I thought he was a GREAT coach and he could take over a team, that say had played 20+ freshmen and still kick arse. MN needs to give him a HUGE raise. 1-3 in his first year is awesome.
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What do you think of Gundy and Brohm?
I think Gundy is weird and all about his 40-year-old-man self. Have no idea who the other guy is.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:06 pm to LSUT14
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You play to win, not to accept a loss.
Yeah, tell that to Jimbo's face.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:06 pm to Topwater Trout
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Yeah...b/c last years team was as talented as 2014 & 2012 right?
Is this real life???
2016 was more talented than both of those teams.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:07 pm to UpToPar
Because Saban sold his soul to the devil and has built such a machine at Bama with help from the refs that he’s damn near unstoppable without perfection
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:09 pm to Le Tenia
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All would be underdogs. Everyone that plays Bama is an underdog.
Jimbo beat the shite out of Bama earlier this year and he has a lot less talent at FSU than LSU has. FSU hasn't had a decent recruiting class since Bobby Bowden left.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:10 pm to UpToPar
Chark is good but we need two more like him. Gage is ok but he's not all SEC. The OL I'm talking about are the second string, who are IMO much more talented than the first, but young. The LBs have played well but will play much better next year and the year after.
Hopefully O can get some of these 2nd and 3rd round guys to stay to climb to first rounders. We will need these juniors, at least some of them to start staying for another year to let the younger guys grow into their spots and help bring LSU back to the top. If for nothing else, it can be to beat bama and win a championship, while bringing LSU back to the top.
O needs to stay in the JUCO and look for good transfers when he sees the depth depleted, and he needs to see it in advance. When there are 1st round talent leaving, he needs to go into JUCO or get some transfers to replace them. Either that or land sure thing talents, but even those guys likely need a year or two before really being ready.
It just takes time sometimes, look at Michigan and how they are struggling with a young team. It happens, we have to be a little more patient as a fan base or forget LSU ever making it back to the top.
Hopefully O can get some of these 2nd and 3rd round guys to stay to climb to first rounders. We will need these juniors, at least some of them to start staying for another year to let the younger guys grow into their spots and help bring LSU back to the top. If for nothing else, it can be to beat bama and win a championship, while bringing LSU back to the top.
O needs to stay in the JUCO and look for good transfers when he sees the depth depleted, and he needs to see it in advance. When there are 1st round talent leaving, he needs to go into JUCO or get some transfers to replace them. Either that or land sure thing talents, but even those guys likely need a year or two before really being ready.
It just takes time sometimes, look at Michigan and how they are struggling with a young team. It happens, we have to be a little more patient as a fan base or forget LSU ever making it back to the top.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:14 pm to UpToPar
fricking never
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:18 pm to abellsujr
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People act like it's our job to decide who the best choice for HC would be. It's not.
I'm perfectly fine with you not being a part of the selection process.
The issue that I take with all of the mouth breathing, O shitters is that Eddy O is focus of all the negativity because he was not "your choice" but he was Ol' Boy Joe's. Was O suppose to say that he wasn't interested in the job? Joe was sold and picked him, is that O's fault?
Misguided negativity. The team is winning right now, get over your self-righteous, entitled persona and pull for the team and "hope and pray" that we can drop Bama and keep the momentum rolling.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:18 pm to UpToPar
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Now, a Bama loss is all but a foregone conclusion and is excusable by most. What happened?
IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOSE 6 TIMES IN A ROW
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:23 pm to Tiger Ree
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Jimbo beat the shite out of Bama earlier this year and he has a lot less talent at FSU than LSU has.
WTF are you talking about, Bama beat them 24-7. My point is that Bama is the favorite to win every game they play. Even FSU which I clearly remember Bama beating 24-7.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:23 pm to fr33manator
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with help from the refs that
THAT'S THE OTHER THING. WHEN YOU COME TO REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE TO BEAT NOT ONLY BAMA BUT THE REFS ALSO IT'S JUST A TALL TASK TO ASK ANY TEAM
though I do not put victory out of reach of this team. They are as gritty and determined as their coach that they make even the seemingly impossible possible
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:26 pm to boxcar willie
What would it take to actually get some straight up objective officiating against Bama?
RoboRefs?
RoboRefs?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:28 pm to Le Tenia
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WTF are you talking about, Bama beat them 24-7.
Sorry, my bad. Everyone on this board wanted to pay Jimbo $10 million per year to be the coach. I just assumed he must have beat the shite out of Bama and Saban. 24-7?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:30 pm to Tiger Ree
It kills you that he's still a better coach than O.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:33 pm to Le Tenia
quote:As I am with you I assure you.
I'm perfectly fine with you not being a part of the selection process.
quote:Joe didn't do a proper search. It's been WELL documented and pointed out. There's no disputing that. That's why I was negative about it and many others. It doesn't matter what my choice was. I don't give a shite about that. I'm not an AD, but I know that an AD should do a proper search when your intention is to give a 12 million dollar buy out. You're making a pretty big decision here. Am I wrong on that?
The issue that I take with all of the mouth breathing, O shitters is that Eddy O is focus of all the negativity because he was not "your choice" but he was Ol' Boy Joe's.
quote:I never said it was.
Was O suppose to say that he wasn't interested in the job? Joe was sold and picked him, is that O's fault?
quote:I have to answer this on a regular basis and it's stupid. I do pull for the team. I always want LSU to win. You need to get over your asinine assumptions and jumping to conclusions and understand that this is a message board and people are going to talk about things. If you don't like the thread, read another one.
Misguided negativity. The team is winning right now, get over your self-righteous, entitled persona and pull for the team and "hope and pray" that we can drop Bama and keep the momentum rolling.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:34 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It kills you that he's still a better coach than O.
Who Jimbo?
I was pulling for Jimbo and hoped the fan had come down to the field.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:39 pm to Tiger Ree
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I was pulling for Jimbo and hoped the fan had come down to the field.
Jimbo would have given him the rope-a-dope and a suflex. Then a Jimmy Snuka Superly move and would have dropped the mike as he walked away.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:40 pm to Sir Fury
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Miles was fired because of his unwillingness to change. Ed was hired because he had a plan to change. His plan was to seek out and hire the best offensive coordinator he could. I still believe he did that. However, change isn’t always easy or immediate. Some of us realize that. Others think it’s just a flip of a switch. In the grand scheme of things, 3-losses is disappointing. But in the context of this particular season - new OC with a transition to a new philosophy, very young team, etc. - 3 losses isn’t terrible.
That said, we don’t have 3 losses yet. And until we possibly do, I’ll believe we can win that next game.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Until we actually lose this game, I believe we can win it.
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