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re: When’s the last time it was acceptable to lose to Bama?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:34 pm to UpToPar
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:34 pm to UpToPar
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Now, a Bama loss is all but a foregone conclusion and is excusable by most. What happened?
It is not excusable. However, we see the problem is now mostly with Alleva. Somehow, our expectations have greatly fallen for this program.
There's really not much we can do until he is fired.
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:37 pm to Silvermoon_WhereRU
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Of the 2016 game, the 2016 recruiting offseason, and this 2017 game @T-Town, this is the least likely of the three for LSU to win.
Call me crazy... but since 2 of those are past events, I would wager this game is the MOST likely for LSU to win.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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then why didn't we fire Les sooner?
Winning a NC and playing for another buys you a little time.
We lost the last 5 Bama games of Miles' tenure, and he caught heat for every one of those losses. Many (myself included) thought he should have been fired following the 2015 season, and the 5 straight losses to Bama was a large part of that.
But that doesn't change the fact that many on here are now willing to give the current coaching staff a pass on the Bama game. We saw it last year and we are seeing it again this year. You had many who said last year that if Orgeron keeps the bama game close and wins out he deserves the job. This year you have fans that have come up with every excuse under the sun as to why it's okay for LSU to lose to bama (hell, we have fans that have already excused the losses to State and Troy).
Complacency is the quickest route to mediocrity.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:42 pm to UpToPar
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many on here are now willing to give the current coaching staff a pass on the Bama game. We saw it last year and we are seeing it again this year.
If CLM was the coach last year we get blown out. It was tied 0-0 in the 4th.
I think anyone that knows talent knows that LSU is, for the first time in a long time, at serious disadvantage talent wise this year...especially on both sides of the line.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:43 pm to Topwater Trout
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If CLM was the coach last year we get blown out.
Yeah, Miles could never stay on the field with Saban in Tiger Stadium.
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think anyone that knows talent knows that LSU is, for the first time in a long time, at serious disadvantage talent wise this year...especially on both sides of the line.
Nope. We’ve been at a serious talent disadvantage to Alabama since Saban’s string of #1 recruiting classes started. Just like everyone else in the country.
It’s just now that many of you are not only accepting that fact, but using it as an excuse for the new coach unlike the pitchforks you carried when the previous coach couldn’t beat them.
ETA: For the record, I’ve been clear I will not hold a loss to Alabama against O in the slightest, assuming it isn’t some 66-3 beat down like they put on Ole Miss.
This game should be a comfortable win for Saban though no doubt.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:44 pm to UpToPar
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It seems like the last two years fans have gone into the Bama game with the idea that a loss to Bama is the most likely outcome and that this is acceptable. I don’t remember that ever being the case in the 15 years or so.
Even after Saban had that program humming, we always thought we could beat them. In fact, losing to them 6 straight times is part of the reason why fired our last coach. Now, a Bama loss is all but a foregone conclusion and is excusable by most.
It's as if you think the program follows the confidence rather than vice versa.
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What Happened?
Bama has elevated their program above everyone else's program. Have you been in a cave over the last 5 years?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:45 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Yeah, Miles could never stay on the field with Saban in Tiger Stadium.
Yeah...b/c last years team was as talented as 2014 & 2012 right?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:46 pm to Topwater Trout
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I think anyone that knows talent knows that LSU is, for the first time in a long time, at serious disadvantage talent wise this year...especially on both sides of the line.
Another lie that has somehow been repeated
I won't make you click:
Average 247 composite for starting OL:
LSU: 0.92
Bama: 0.93
Average 247 composite for starting DL:
LSU: 0.95
Bama: 0.97
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:48 pm to moneyg
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Bama has elevated their program above everyone else's program. Have you been in a cave over the last 5 years?
Bama has been an elite program since 2009. Which year did LSU fans say its okay for Miles to lose to Bama?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:50 pm to Topwater Trout
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Yeah...b/c last years team was as talented as 2014 & 2012 right?
Last year’s team was WAAAAAY more talented than 2014 you dummy
How bout 2008?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:53 pm to Topwater Trout
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If CLM was the coach last year we get blown out.
I mean, O followed Miles's game plan for the game. How can you say this?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:53 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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How bout 2008?
what about 2008?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:55 pm to UpToPar
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UptoPar
Great numbers, but you have to admit that just using starters is a bit disingenuous.
Alabama has waves of 4 and 5 star talent behind their starters that we just don’t.
I agree that youth and lack of talent is a false crutch the CheeriOs are using as excuses for the early season struggles against the Troys and MSUs of our schedule, but Alabama is clearly on a different level. In so many ways.
No need to try to make a case for why we shouldn’t be expected to lose this game when there just isn’t one to be made.
Anything can happen, obviously. But a win in two weeks would be a huge upset
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:58 pm to Topwater Trout
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what about 2008?
Another game where we took Alabama to overtime as double digit underdogs.
Not to mention beating them as huge dogs in 2010.
Your comment that Miles would have gotten blown out last year in Tiger Stadium is just absurd and you should be embarrassed
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:58 pm to UpToPar
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This is just starters using the depth chart from ourlads.com
depth doesn't matter at all
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:59 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Great numbers, but you have to admit that just using starters is a bit disingenuous.
I agree, particularly on the DL. I don't think depth is as big of a deal on the OL until you start running into injuries. We should be relatively healthy on the OL for the Bama game.
But, I also dont think that this is the first year we are at a talent disadvantage against Bama, and I dont think its as significant as some people like to make it out to be.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:00 pm to UpToPar
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But, I also dont think that this is the first year we are at a talent disadvantage against Bama, and I dont think its as significant as some people like to make it out to be.
Agreed
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:01 pm to Sir Fury
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Their TD came on a play where holding should’ve been called on 3 different Bama players.
We can count on more of that if the game's outcome is in question...
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:02 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Your comment about Miles getting blown out last year is just absurd and you should be embarrasse
uh....21-0 is a blowout right?
how about 38-17?
30-16?
and 21-0 with his best team EVER...he was such a great fricking coach he didn't change his gameplan from when his offense scored 9 pts in OT AND had no answer to try and change that gameplan in the most important game of the year. That is inexcusable not to try JL or spreading the field in a game for the championship. At least with CEO I have seen adjustments at half time.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:03 pm to UpToPar
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I don't think depth is as big of a deal on the OL until you start running into injuries.
WTF? when 2 or 3 starters are true freshmen it is
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