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re: When is the media gonna start demanding answers from Miles?
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:26 pm to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:26 pm to heartbreakTiger
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imo its LSU tells them not to and forces them not to ask shite by taking away as much as they can if they were to put miles over the fire
Unfortunately, this wouldn't surprise me.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:27 pm to Luke4LSU
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So answering the questions of those who pay his almost $4,000,000/yr salary isn't part of his job description?
I love it when people actually convince themselves they personally pay coaches' salaries.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:27 pm to Luke4LSU
Not a whole bunch of choices for media in the Baton Rouge area. A couple TV stations and a couple newspapers. Not national like LA, NY, Stillwater, etc.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:28 pm to Luke4LSU
i guess you will find out after he knows which direction he will take. the media just makes things worse, and miles knows this. i would say nothing til after i had made up my mind and was clear on the direction i was gonna take.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:29 pm to Luke4LSU
quote:How is the media asking him "tough questions" (the biggest bullshite line in media -- which is saying a lot) holding him "accountable"? Of course the only way to hold him accountable is to fire him. How else can you possibly hold an employee accountable other than firing or the threat of firing? Write ups, record notations, reports, etc., are all just a prelude to the real threat, firing.
So he just gets to do whatever the frick he wants, and the only way to hold him accountable is to fire him?
quote:Okay, so he says, "our defense fricking blows because our coordinators suck out loud."
Why not just answer the fricking questions?
How many points would that have kept off the board against Arkansas?
There is no such thing as a "tough question" because nothing has ever been solved by media questions or their answers. The only way this (or any other problem) will be solved is by the people in charge doing what needs to be done. Either Les will make the changes or he won't, and no questions or answers in any press conference will impact our defensive performance one bit.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:29 pm to Luke4LSU
im not sure why it got locked.
I am not sure LSU can banish them but they can defiantly make it alot harder to get stories and stuff if the advocate doesn't want to play the way they say.
I am not sure LSU can banish them but they can defiantly make it alot harder to get stories and stuff if the advocate doesn't want to play the way they say.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:29 pm to Hot Carl
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love it when people actually convince themselves they personally pay coaches' salaries.
frick you carl!!! i've purchased lots of LSU licensed gear...i should have a voice.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:30 pm to Hot Carl
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I love it when people actually convince themselves they personally pay coaches' salaries.
Are you implying that the fans, whether directly or indirectly, do not contribute to his salary??
Do you think CFB coaches would make $4MM/yr if there were no fans?
Quit spinning it. You know exactly what I meant.
If Miles would frick this program up AND the income from fans in the form of tickets, merchandise, and donations would CONTINUE to come in at the same levels, he won't be fired. It's a business, and the income is from the fans.
This post was edited on 11/30/08 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:31 pm to Luke4LSU
First of all, nobody would ask a question with the wording of the question in the original post on this thread, because it reads like a fan with an emotional investment in the team. It doesn't read like a question from a reporter, who's supposed to have more of a detachment than that.
Second, the kinds of questions you're talking about get asked on Sunday nights by print reporters at a weekly briefing Miles has for about 5-8 print reporters. There are no cameras on, it's not carried live on the radio and on the Internet, so you don't know the questions are being asked, but they're being asked. Miles even goes off the record sometimes, and what he says at that time can't be quoted. Michael Bonnette puts the highlights on the Internet and sends it to all the media via e-mail.
The Monday press luncheon is for show, for TV and radio soundbites. And because it's carried live, coaches treat it as a public performance, and they often say things they want their players to see on the TV news or they say only want they want to say knowing their face will be attached to the soundbite every time it's played. It's also attended by many athletic department workers, so it's not set up to be a true press conference. It's like being invited to a company's headquarters and having a press conference in the lunchroom surrounded by employees.
When reporters ask questions away from those soundbite opportunities, they get better answers. The answers have been reported, but you don't get to hear the questions, so you don't think they're being asked. They're being asked. You just don't like the answers.
You should call his radio show if you want a specific question asked. The media can't demand answers from Miles. You might as well learn that now. All they can do is ask, but he's going to give only as much information as he wants to. The media has nothing to hold over his head if he doesn't answer the way they (or you) want him to. There's little they can demand of a coach. The SEC rules only require him to show up, not to tell everything (or anything).
Second, the kinds of questions you're talking about get asked on Sunday nights by print reporters at a weekly briefing Miles has for about 5-8 print reporters. There are no cameras on, it's not carried live on the radio and on the Internet, so you don't know the questions are being asked, but they're being asked. Miles even goes off the record sometimes, and what he says at that time can't be quoted. Michael Bonnette puts the highlights on the Internet and sends it to all the media via e-mail.
The Monday press luncheon is for show, for TV and radio soundbites. And because it's carried live, coaches treat it as a public performance, and they often say things they want their players to see on the TV news or they say only want they want to say knowing their face will be attached to the soundbite every time it's played. It's also attended by many athletic department workers, so it's not set up to be a true press conference. It's like being invited to a company's headquarters and having a press conference in the lunchroom surrounded by employees.
When reporters ask questions away from those soundbite opportunities, they get better answers. The answers have been reported, but you don't get to hear the questions, so you don't think they're being asked. They're being asked. You just don't like the answers.
You should call his radio show if you want a specific question asked. The media can't demand answers from Miles. You might as well learn that now. All they can do is ask, but he's going to give only as much information as he wants to. The media has nothing to hold over his head if he doesn't answer the way they (or you) want him to. There's little they can demand of a coach. The SEC rules only require him to show up, not to tell everything (or anything).
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:32 pm to Luke4LSU
professional courtesy maybe? Asking him questions that are obvious attempts to get Miles to call a person out is unprofessional IMO, and more so if Miles were to actually answer it.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:36 pm to King Joey
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How is the media asking him "tough questions" (the biggest bullshite line in media -- which is saying a lot) holding him "accountable"?
I guess I kind of view it like a PhD student defending their dissertation. They don't just get a PASS or a FAIL without being given a chance to defend themselves. That's all I meant.
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Okay, so he says, "our defense fricking blows because our coordinators suck out loud."
Why do you all act like there is NO middle ground answer between "Everything if fine. We played well." and "Everything if frickED. We played pathetically."
Les can admit that there are significant problems on defense (and other places) without him saying what you have in quotes above.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:40 pm to Marco J Frisbee
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Marco J Frisbee
Thank you! That's exactly what I was looking for.
Does your answer make me feel better? Not really.
But you did answer my question honestly, and that's all I was looking for.
Thanks!
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:41 pm to Luke4LSU
You're welcome. It's never as conspiratorial or nefarious as most people like to imagine it is.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:42 pm to Luke4LSU
Ed Buggs would ask Les the hard-hitting questions...His interview of Monica Lewinsky a few years back was very powerful.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:47 pm to Luke4LSU
quote:But the media have no control over Miles' job. The people asking PhD candidates are the ones who decide whether they succeed or not. Totally different situation. Now, if Joe Alleva were not asking Les the kind of questions you are talking about, that would be different.
I guess I kind of view it like a PhD student defending their dissertation.
quote:Okay. So how many points would that have kept Arkansas from scoring? My point isn't the wording, my point is that the answers you are talking about are irrelevant in the press conference. What he tells the team and what the team sees him do with the other coaches, that will affect how they perform. The press conferences are nothing but show. If he announces that the DCs will be fired in a press conference, that wouldn't even affect the play of the defense; the firing would be what makes the difference.
Les can admit that there are significant problems on defense (and other places) without him saying what you have in quotes above.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:48 pm to graychef
quote: I guess that means Miles is losing with Saban's players?
Good one GrayChef. I like your perspective.
Good one GrayChef. I like your perspective.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:56 pm to Luke4LSU
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When is the media gonna start demanding answers from Miles?
Why do they ask him the same old BS questions in all his press conferences and put up with his sidestepping answers??
Who, like Buddy Songy?
Get serious.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:58 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Who, like Buddy Songy?
Get serious.
Buddy can be very spicy.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 4:04 pm to Luke4LSU
Maybe when they start cutting him a paycheck....oh wait...
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