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re: When did LSU fans become so invested in MBB??

Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:45 am to
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5059 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:45 am to
These nerds just just lie complain about the AD

It’s football and baseball at LSU

Basketball is sideshow
Posted by Kid Ray
Member since Nov 2024
463 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:07 pm to
80's were 40 years ago and that final four under Brady was no fluke.

You need to grow up and move out of mommy and daddy's house
Posted by Kid Ray
Member since Nov 2024
463 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:08 pm to
Why did you leave out the 80's?
Why did you start at '93?
Cherry picker.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5006 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:13 pm to
How many final 4s have we been to since then?

Anomaly
something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected.

Since the “Golden Age”, where we appeared in a final 4 in 81 and 86, we have been to 1 final four in 2006. 19 years ago.

3 total final fours in 44 years.

Hence, LSU men’s basketball appearing in a final four is NOT the normal or expected.

I know this may be hard for you, since your best insult is to assume I “live with mommy and daddy”, but historically as a program, LSU men’s basketball has NOT been successful.

Successful programs are measured by final fours and National Championships. If you want to say appearing in the tournament every few years is successful, then be my guest. But I define success of a program by natties and semifinals.

Maybe it’s time to check your standards


TLDR: LSU has appeared in 3 final 4s in 44 years, with no national championship. We are a mediocre program.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71219 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Why did you leave out the 80's?
Why did you start at '93?
Cherry picker.

because I said since the early 90s we had been a cellar dwelling program...which is true, so I provided the yearly results to support that claim

my first post in that thread was this
quote:

no we're not. We have some final fours, which is really our only bragging rights in basketball. We're tied for 6th in NCAAT appearances with Alabama. We're actually ahead of Florida there, but they also have two national titles. We're not top 5 in all time wins or winning percentage. We are a program who has gone on some mini-runs of being good. The only time we have been consistently competitive for more than a handful of years at a time was when Dale Brown was the coach, and his run of being competitive ended in 1993, over 30 years ago. Brady was terrible outside a few seasons. Johnson and Jones were generally bad too outside a few years collectively. That is exactly why people romanticize how good Will Wade was


someone then responded to me with this
quote:

Rank the top half of the league since you've got it all figured out.


So then I provided how LSU finished in the league in that time period.

So no, I wasn't cherry picking. I acknowledged and accounted for Dale Brown's run already. Do you need a thesis paper written for every post? Or are you smart enough to follow a thread?

Or maybe you don't like hearing the truth that LSU been a middle of the road to poor basketball program for the vast majority of its existence. Dale Brown's run was an extreme outlier. It was also a long time ago at this point. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Or can I add the 40s, 50s, 60s, and most of the 70s as well? Do you need all of that? We had a 25 year gap between appearances in the NCAAT in there. Or do you only want to talk about the 80s and 2006? Sure seems like the latter

I also love when people bring up Pete Maravich as some badge of honor of how good our program and leave out the part where we never made the NCAAT with him
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted by LSUbasketballfan
Member since Jan 2021
454 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

3 total final fours in 44 years


# of Final Fours in the past 44 years with no championships:

Purdue 1
Alabama 1
Gonzaga 2
Auburn 1
Illinois 2
Wisconsin 3
Marquette 1
Iowa St. 0
Tennessee 0
Missouri 0
Creighton 0
BYU 0

If you did not know, getting to the final four is pretty hard.


Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5006 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:18 pm to
Being successful is not easy, nice list of schools, now list the ones with 5 plus in the past 44 years. Those are your successful schools in basketball
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88802 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:36 pm to
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LSU basketball was on fire back then. Nikita Wilson, Anthony Wilson,


"big" john williams, derrick taylor, ricky blanton, don redden, jose vargas, etc.

loved that 86 and 87 team.

DJ aka Daryl frickin joe
Posted by LSUbasketballfan
Member since Jan 2021
454 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 4:08 pm to
The schools with 5 plus final fours in the last 44 years are all blue bloods.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5006 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 4:12 pm to
Also known as SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS.

I’ve clearly defined success for you guys. I’m not sure what point you’re missing
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58881 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

It’s football and baseball at LSU

Basketball is sideshow

does baseball even turn a profit?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10456 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Basketball at lsu has always been an afterthought to football and baseball


Baseball was atrocious until the mid to late 90's.

Prior to that LSU was really a basketball school
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10456 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Expecting a turnaround or any sort of contending for championships soon is just unrealistic and wishful thinking, when a sample size that large proves that fact.


I mean we just fired a guy who proved it could be done... Thus the reason why so many are upset with the state of the program
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5006 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:00 pm to
That guy was also dumb enough to get recorded.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66105 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:07 pm to
A recording that had zero to do with the violations.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34053 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Baseball was atrocious until the mid to late 90's.



Did you miss the CWS appearances in 86, 87, 89, 90, along with the championship in 1991 and 1993?

Did you mean the mid/late 80’s?
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5006 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:18 pm to
And yet, still gone and considered a cheater
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5006 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:19 pm to
No, in their heads we’re a basketball school and were never a baseball school.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3659 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:19 pm to
Muh wIlL wAdE
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34053 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

No, in their heads we’re a basketball school and were never a baseball school.


For the record, I’m MUCH more of a basketball fan than a baseball fan. But I’m also a fan of correct facts in any argument.

LSU wasn’t a “baseball school” until one man made them such. Same for basketball, though to a lesser degree because LSU had guys like Maravich and Petit.

Any fight about baseball school vs basketball school is stupid. A school can have BOTH a great basketball program and baseball program…if they can find the right leader. Right now LSU basketball simply doesn’t have that. FAR from it. But this doesn’t mean you just throw your hands up a say “oh well”, at least we have baseball. Having a shitty men’s basketball program means the department is leaving a LOT of potential money/noteriety on the table. Second only to football. LSU basketball was very good before. It can be again
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