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re: When did LSU fans become so invested in MBB??
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:11 pm to Madking
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:11 pm to Madking
We have and will be unable to do that relying on the basketball team, which is because LSU is not a basketball school
However, baseball and football will foot the bill as usual
However, baseball and football will foot the bill as usual
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 12:13 pm
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:13 pm to public_enemy
Explain please.
Sorry, just saw your edit.. baseball doesn’t make any money,
Sorry, just saw your edit.. baseball doesn’t make any money,
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:18 pm to public_enemy
quote:We’re just following your lead, Corky.
Again, please keep coming with the idiotic takes.
quote:Are you serious? How dense are you? This is the exact opposite of what fans would bet. We’re more likely to go winless in the SEC next season than make a Final Four.
Who’s down for a 1,000 dollar bet that lsu doesn’t make the final four in the next 5 years? Since you guys are so confident we’ll emerge as some great program
The program is in shambles and the real fans are pissed because the AD doesn’t give a shite.
That doesn’t preclude ever being good like your dumbass is suggesting.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:22 pm to drizztiger
The AD doesn’t give a shite about basketball because LSU is not a relevant basketball school. Im happy to have a realistic AD who focuses on Football and Baseball. Just makes so much sense.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:22 pm to public_enemy
quote:Baseball was in the red even during the 2023 NC season. Wtf are you talking about?
However, baseball and football will foot the bill as usual
Basketball nets close to $2mm even during the dark ages. 3-15 SEC MBB, decline NIT bid is paying for the baseballs.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:24 pm to public_enemy
quote:So you’re just stupid. Got ya.
The AD doesn’t give a shite about basketball because LSU is not a relevant basketball school. Im happy to have a realistic AD who focuses on Football and Baseball. Just makes so much sense.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:41 pm to drizztiger
Stupid for supporting an AD focusing on our most successful programs? Sure bud
Live in your little dream world that LSU basketball will one day be relevant, just don’t hold your breath, you’ll suffocate
Live in your little dream world that LSU basketball will one day be relevant, just don’t hold your breath, you’ll suffocate
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:41 pm to drizztiger
So the basketball team is actually good for something, I’ll take it
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
LSU basketball has always been, at best, a lower half of the conference program
Your ignorance is showing.
Historically it was UK and everyone else.
LSU had a solid program in the 80's with 2 final fours and then a lull and Brady got us back to the final four.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:23 pm to Kid Ray
quote:
LSU had a solid program in the 80's with 2 final fours and then a lull and Brady got us back to the final four.
Starting with the 93-94 seasons, here have been our finishes:
93-94 - 5th West
94-95 - 5th West
95-96 - 6th (last) West
96-97 - 6th (last) West
97-98 - 6th (last) West
98-99 - 6th (last) West
99-00 - Won SEC
00-01 - 6th (last) West
01-02 - 4th West
02-03 - 2nd West
03-04 - 2nd West
04-05 - 1st West
05-06 - 1st West
06-07 - 6th (last) West
07-08 - 4th West
08-09 - Won SEC
09-10 - 6th (last) West
10-11 - 6th (last) West
11-12 - 8th in SEC
12-13 - T8th in SEC
13-14 - T6th in SEC
14-15 - T3rd in SEC
15-16 - T3rd in SEC
16-17 - T13th in SEC
17-18 - T9th in SEC
18-19 - Won SEC
19-20 - T2nd in SEC
20-21 - 3rd in SEC
21-22 - T5th in SEC
22-23 - 14th (last) in SEC
23-24 - T7th in SEC
24-25 - 15th in SEC
From 93-94 until the 10-11 season when we were still in divisions, LSU finished 5th or worst in the West in 10 of 18 seasons (56%). We finished in the top half of the division 6 total times (33%).
From 11-12 to the present when we eliminated divisions, we finished in the bottom half of the SEC 7 times out of 14 seasons.
On the whole, since the early 90s, LSU has been a doormat program in this league way more than they haven't. In the history of this program, the only time we weren't more than we were was from 1977-1993, about a 15 year block of time in a conference that has been around almost 100 years.
It truly baffles me why people seem to think our program is worth so much more than it realistically is and has been for the vast majority of its existence.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to do better, but the level of expectations and arrogance some people have is kind of amazing really.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:43 pm to public_enemy
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I’d prefer to actually be a serious contender, something that we won’t ever be, so there’s no reason to take basketball at LSU seriously in comparison to football and baseball
Auburn, outside of Charles Barkley, has no basketball history at all yet Bruce Pearl has them as a #1 seed this year.
Those of us who remember the Dale days know it can be done and it takes nothing away from football or baseball. But, you have to start somewhere.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:49 pm to Thorny
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Auburn, outside of Charles Barkley, has no basketball history at all yet Bruce Pearl has them as a #1 seed this year.
How dare you disrespect the Rifleman...
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:53 pm to lsufball19
quote:Expecting to make the NCAAT 3/4 times in a five year span isn’t some unreasonable request.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to do better, but the level of expectations and arrogance some people have is kind of amazing really.
It’s the dudes that say shite like “we only made the Sweet 16” that are completely out of touch.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:57 pm to lsufball19
quote:
It truly baffles me why people seem to think our program is worth so much more than it realistically is
Well since you started at the end of the Dale era and the next few years of DRACONIAN SANCTIONS it sure weighs it down. It’s also frustrating to see plenty of teams that have comparable history to us having excellent seasons while we swirl down the toilet bowl. Is it really that baffling?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 3:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
People do like to complain but the current situation is much worse than it has been in a while. To me there is no reason we should not make the tournament 4/5 years. With a run to at least the elite eight in there.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 3:21 pm to lsufball19
quote:
no we're not
Rank the top half of the league since you've got it all figured out.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 3:21 pm to lsufball19
quote:
truly baffles me why people seem to think our program is worth so much more than it realistically is and has been for the vast majority of its existence
Because people take the few peaks we have and say they outweigh the valleys.
LSU really isn't in the conversation nationally when it comes to basketball.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:09 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
quote:
Because people take the few peaks we have and say they outweigh the valleys.
bingo. We are great at having unreal seasons and following them up with shitshows. That's been the case most of the last 30 years. Which is why i said previously people romanticize Wade to the level that he's some generational coaching talent because he made the NCAAT a few times. Was he better than Brady, Johnson, and Jones? Sure, but that's not a real high bar. He was pretty much owned by Nate Oats at Alabama. He was owned by Bruce Pearl, and he was owned by Florida. The only school who people compare us to that he randomly kinda owned was Tennessee. And if you really look at it, his teams got progressively worse each year. He won the SEC in his second year, then finished 2nd, then 3rd, and then 5th his last season. That's still completely fine for a program like LSU, but it's like people think we would be what Auburn and Alabama are had Wade not been fired. Where is the proof that Wade is on the same level as Pearl or Oats?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
when i first saw will wade i was impressed. his energy, attention to detail, ability to both discipline and befriend the players, make them play hard, know everything about the math of the net and the optimizing of the schedule and the paying recruits like naz reid, all of that, i was super fired up.
i figured there is no reason blue bloods have to forever be the elite, why cant other squads move up into that echelon? then i saw massive improvement, then undefeated on the road and SEC title. then the university started fricking him over, the NCAA, the goddamn southern district NY even! it was frustrating because of the potential, i thought that if wade were left alone he could make LSU into a powerhouse at the level of kentucky and uconn.
and what he is doing at mcneese, this is exactly what he said he would do, and what i expected. total domination.
so i continue to be upset about what we lost.
that said i dont disilike mcmahon i think he is a decent coach who hasnt yet attracted enough talent. maybe he will. he is no wade though. wade is the fricking boss.
i figured there is no reason blue bloods have to forever be the elite, why cant other squads move up into that echelon? then i saw massive improvement, then undefeated on the road and SEC title. then the university started fricking him over, the NCAA, the goddamn southern district NY even! it was frustrating because of the potential, i thought that if wade were left alone he could make LSU into a powerhouse at the level of kentucky and uconn.
and what he is doing at mcneese, this is exactly what he said he would do, and what i expected. total domination.
so i continue to be upset about what we lost.
that said i dont disilike mcmahon i think he is a decent coach who hasnt yet attracted enough talent. maybe he will. he is no wade though. wade is the fricking boss.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
When we were making the Final Four, Sweet 16, etc, I never saw this level of passion from our fan base.
The reason the NCAA stopped letting teams host games in the tourney was because of LSU's 1986 team that snuck in and ended up advancing to the Final Four. Many felt it was an unfair advantage because of LSU's raucous home court advantage.
LSU held the record for the 3 largest college basketball regular season attendances ever for those games in the Super Dome under Dale Brown for many years. And the Deaf Dome was was called that because it was one of the most passionate crowds in all of basketball under Dale Brown.
It has never been the same since Brown, but there have been times when the crowds were back and awesome. Brady's couple of runs and some of the Wade teams had exciting crowds. And when Wade got suspended right before we won the SEC Championship, I'm not sure I've seen too many crowds with more passion than that.
The truth is that other than UK, the SEC was very average for decades as a conference. And although LSU is not a historically upper-tier basketball program, it is still tied for the 2nd most SEC conference championships. So the fans want and expect a better product than they are seeing on the court now.
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