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Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:00 pm to sunnydaze
NIL and the portal
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:53 pm to semjase
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They're out in force, downvoting any and every "Intelligent" post and they're getting DV'ing help from all the cute little kids from the LSUAD that are being paid to "Tow the Company Line" for Dear Ole LSU
Except in no way is it intelligent to say you can't tell a difference between now and a team having a losing season and a roster so depleted you couldn't fill a 2 deep roster with scholarship players.
I really think there is a portion of posters on here that think Kelly inherited the 2005 or 2016 lsu program. It's astounding how mismanaged the roster and program was from the 2019 class until the day Orgeron was fired.
Dabo lost 7 games in year 3 at Clemson.
Kirby lost 3 games in year 3 at uga.
Saban lost 5 games in year 3 at Lsu.
Harbaugh lost 5 games in year 3 at Michigan.
Rebuilding a program from the ground up is hard.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:58 pm to DalenSA
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But finishing in the bottom half of the SEC in year 3 of BK is preposterous
We lost a heisman winner and 2 first rd wrs.
We replaced 97% of our offensive production.
Rebuilding a program from the ground up is hard.
Saban,Kirby, dabo and Harbaugh all had similar year 3s... but hey don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:17 pm to AlwysATgr
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BK inherited after '21: Dellinger - was starting in '24. SEC quality? Wire - invited to Saints camp - do they invite non-SEC quality players to camp? Turner - started in '23. SEC quality? Bradford - in the NFL. SEC quality?
Typo- you really got me.
Before the 22 season and recruits and portal, we had Dellinger and Turner left with a ton of fricking dead weight who all ended up transferring out to lower levels. Please provide any facts to prove otherwise. I’ll give you Martinez since he started at State after leaving here, but he also got beat out by a true freshman in Chester at Center last year (Chester played at Mizzou over Martinez when Turner went down after taking his job), who we all saw struggle mightily all this season.
Wire was shite
He was beaten out, not by 5 star Will Campbell, but by a raw, unheralded guy in Jones who wasn’t supposed to compete for at least a year. Getting invited to a NFL camp doesn’t mean shite. He had multiple starts and a lot of experience, was never good, and got his job taken by a true freshman after sucking arse to start the 22 season. You have nothing. We are in a much better situation talent-wise today than leaning on shitty vets who suck like Cam fricking Wire and a bunch of G5 guys who were never good enough to be at LSU or any other SEC program
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:22 pm to Madking
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I didn’t editorialize I just posted the records and I didn’t even include the undefeated national title. You’re using spin to argue against facts, you’re the one with the issue and if you think I’m some O loyalist you better think again.
You are the furthered thing on this fricking planet from anything close to remotely resembling objective. It’s hilarious to watch you try to claim otherwise.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 12:26 am to LSUStar
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Go fly a kite.
The BK haters absolutely loathe being asked whom they would've hired because they realize there weren't any better options.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 1:11 am to misey94
Yet you can’t point out anything that isn’t objective in those posts. You on the other hand are exactly what you accuse me of being. Pretty typical of your kind though, dishonest with a vitriolic reaction to facts.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 1:16 am
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:05 am to sunnydaze
Two things can be true.
We can be in better shape than we were when Special Ed was here…
Brian Kelly cannot be near good enough.
We can be in better shape than we were when Special Ed was here…
Brian Kelly cannot be near good enough.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:11 am to J2thaROC
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You inbred, useless fricks just can’t stand to have someone who can actually color inside the lines of a coloring book leading LSU because he “ain’t one of us”.
Get off your knees and off BKs c.., you worthless moron.
If Brian Kelly had told you in year three, we Could look forward to the Texas Bowl, not even punks like you would’ve wanted him.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:38 am to sunnydaze
I'd argue the the top end talent is less now, much less.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:51 am to sunnydaze
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Same bowl game
Same depleted roster
Still irrelevant
The two years before Kelly we were 5-5 (no bowl game, broke the 21 year, longest in the nation streak) and 6-7 (42-21 defeat in the Texas bowl to Kansas State, without a QB on the roster and 30 something scholarship players).
In his first year we went 10-4 after winning the SEC western division championship ( went from last in the SEC-W to first within one year)
In this second year, he went 10-3 with the only losses to the undefeated ACC champion in a flagship field in the opponents home state, the reigning mega-dynasty SEC champion with the GOAT coach on the road and a top ten team also on the road on the road)
...Oh! We also went from a wide receiver starting at QB to a Heisman trophy winner at QB in his second year.
This year after losing an elite NFL WR tandem and a Heisman winning currently NFL starting first round pick QB we still had a pretty decent offense and with a little luck finish 9-4.
Yeah! I guess 5-5 and 6-7 are just as good as 10-3,10-4 and 9-4.
But I understand why we all liked the previous coach, he talked like us and had the same intellectual level as us.
He is free....you can petition to have him back. Maybe he will improve from 6-7 to 5-7 or 4-9. We all loved the Curley years...didn't we.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:57 am to Draconian Sanctions
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28-11 isn’t quite what i would have expected but it’s not off the charts bad either.
The game has changed. NIL has destroyed our recruiting advantage. In our geography, within a 500 miles radius, we have the two best endowed NIL superpowers (Texas and Texas A&M) and there is more money in Texas and Texas A&M than there is in all of the south east.
We cannot win on the jimmies and joes as we used to. Kelly at least helps us win on the Xs and Os. Hire another dud coach and this program will be in free fall.
Nobody here seems to get it.
Saban retired because he could not match his own success in the era of NIL and with Texas and Texas A&M in the league.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:23 am to mike4lsu
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without a QB on the roster
You sure about that?
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Heisman trophy winner at QB in his second year.
What did this accomplishment do for QB recruiting?
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But I understand why we all liked the previous coach, he talked like us and had the same intellectual level as us.
And the current coach was billed as the antithesis of O. A football coach how knows how to excel at all facets of the game.
Truth is both Miles and O knew how to get players to play hard from the first play to the last. Kelly's teams are soft because he's soft.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:54 am to sunnydaze
We have more uniform combinations now
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:56 am to sunnydaze
Extra heisman
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:46 am to sunnydaze
Way less drama. Roster built intelligently. Great incoming class. Positive future
Posted on 12/14/24 at 10:59 am to Cuz413
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Truth is both Miles and O knew how to get players to play hard from the first play to the last.
Miles I agree...How hard did his players play for O in 2020 and 2021. Every week it was drip...drip....drip...players leaving.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 11:04 am to mike4lsu
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NIL has destroyed our recruiting advantage
our recruit classes are basically where they always have been
Posted on 12/14/24 at 11:19 am to Cuz413
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Truth is both Miles and O knew how to get players to play hard from the first play to the last. Kelly's teams are soft because he's soft.
Yet they were losing the same amount, or more games, despite having more talent.
The revisionist history on this board is nuts.
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