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re: What Would It Take for Crowton to Regain His '07 Magic?

Posted on 3/8/10 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 10:42 pm to
We'll see if he actually found his lost key to the safe deposit box where he put his super secret playbook.

I have actually figured him out and I think he is a frickin' genius. He was not trying to hide and save what we do for the important games later in the season last year but he was hiding what we do all year in order to surprise opposing defenses this year.

Posted by TexasTiger6777
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

What Would It Take for Crowton to Regain His '07 Magic?


10 wins
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20980 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 10:59 pm to
I'm not going to defend Crowton after '09. But neither am I going to discredit what we did in '07.

If I'm not mistaken we had three returning starters on OL in '07 (Black at LT, Herm at LG, and Helms at C). Will Arnold seldom saw the field. Hitt and Carnell were 1st yr starters on the right side. We also had three in '09. Point being, '07 had some experience but wasn't an especially senior laden team.

quote:

He's more of a gambler


Agreed - and this is IMO a legitimate criticism of Crowton. He foregoes the simple but effective in favor of the sensational.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
8036 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:07 pm to
Im not gonna sit her and be impressed with predictability. I saw signs of it in 07, saw more in 08, and it was even worse in 09. Now with his progress why should that lead me to believe 2010 is gonna be much better?

LSU is considered a elite school in the nation, and we were ranked horribly on offense. That isnt acceptable, in most jobs if somebody was putting forth the effort he showed, they would be fired, yet Crowton is still a coach at LSU.

And I will also state if I see improvement from him I will take back what I've said about him. Though everything I've said so far has been deserved.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20980 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:09 pm to
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our offense toyed with Auburn and Alabama?

LSU beat Auburn 30-24
where LSU was trailing 17-7 at half, and won on a final play?

LSU beat Alabama 41-34
where LSU was trailing 20-17 at half, and game was ended by the defense not the offense really?


Here's your womework assignment; go see:

1) How many yards of O we had against AU in the 2nd half (and don't inclue LaFell's bobble and handoff to AU (aka interception))
2) How many total yds we had against Bama and
3) Find the last time Muschamp's D gave up that many yds in a half or Saban in a game.

This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
8036 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:11 pm to
hate to tell you, idc how many yards or whatever you have, the only thing that matters in the end is the score. The offense can drive down all they want, but if the defense prevents them from scoring, the defense won.

like from the 2003 first LSU vs UGA game. UGA had like double the yards LSU had, many people believed UGA dominated LSU, but LSU won 17-10.

and the next time you wanna give me a homework assignment, you should probably spell homework right
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 11:13 pm
Posted by SitchProdigy
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:17 pm to
:beatdeadhorse:
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

And I will also state if I see improvement from him I will take back what I've said about him. Though everything I've said so far has been deserved.


How can we not improve? We ranked 112th in the nation. I wanna see some major improvement. If we are lower than that after the first game, he should be fired immediatly. You can thank our wonderful AD Alleva for Crowton not being fired.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
8036 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:24 pm to
i dont mean improve in rankings, i mean improve in predictability, scheme, actually show hes doing his job. Im sure a lil kid pointing out a random play on a piece of paper would have more predictability then, run up the middle, run the option to short side of field, run a slant, etc.. at least the lil kid would keep you guessing
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 12:26 am to
If shep is at tailback guess where the ball is going?
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
8036 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 1:41 am to
Crowton calling the plays itll be a run

Lil kid calling the plays, could be a pass, who knows
Posted by Jiggles
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
19 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 3:01 am to
I think his spirit was broken when the Andrew Hatch thing backfired. LSU can keep throwing raises at him but it doesn't look like that's healing his wounds.

In all honesty his job was a lot easier with an experienced quarterback and O line that was motivated and capable of blocking. Inability on the field really limits play calling options, but last season was really an embarrassment. Even though JJ should know a lot more of the play book this year, and Shep provides a viable option, I think Crowton's wizardry may have stagnated. We'll see.
Posted by Duward
Member since Jan 2010
115 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 3:34 am to
What would it take for Gary Crowton to regain his magic?

Simple: Keep Cro-Magnum Miles out of the loop!

But, Miles actually thinks he can provide input, on game day.

That is the problem AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT.

Crowton is being hijacked by a guy with no clue, Miles.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 4:04 am to
quote:

Crowton is being hijacked by a guy with no clue, Miles.


you're the one without the clue. Crowton has control of the offense. Miles may make a suggestion, but Crowton calls the plays. Miles has been a successful OC in the past
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
4186 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:27 am to
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91053 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:40 am to
quote:

like from the 2003 first LSU vs UGA game. UGA had like double the yards LSU had, many people believed UGA dominated LSU, but LSU won 17-10. and the next time you wanna give me a homework assignment, you should probably spell homework right


OWNAGE!
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
91053 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:42 am to
quote:

Miles has been a successful OC in the past


really? WHo called the plays at Okie state? GUNDY! Miles could not call one side of the ball if his life depended on it.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 8:20 am to
quote:

I think there is real hope. Though I was frustrated with the play calling through out the season and really angry after the Capitol One Bowl I've tried to look at all sides of it. I really don't think the man has forgotten how to coach. I just think he needs a more defined, focused offense.

I think this year we should see much more improvement. Jefferson at the helm knows what needs to be done. You have great talent and experience in the backfield and at the reciever position. I think the offense should be much more efficient and smooth this season.

Or at least...I hope.



agree, I think he is gonna take the collar off Jefferson...he's gonna have to if he wants to save his job...
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 8:34 am to
a qb that can consistantly make plays and get the ball to playmakers.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13543 posts
Posted on 3/9/10 at 8:46 am to
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What Would It Take for Crowton to Regain His '07 Magic
Judging from his history, it would take him getting a new job. Everyone of his first years in a new job produces offenses like LSU in '07. It's the subsequent years at the same place that are the problem. When he moves on, he will do the "savior to goat" trajectory again, just as he's done here and other stops.
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