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Posted on 11/28/23 at 2:44 pm to Alt26
Idc record just make the first 12 team playoff. Being in the top 12 should be the expectation by year 3 in 2024. And if he can’t get there by 2025, 2026 will feel very toasty under his seat.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 2:48 pm to Alt26
Ok fine. You don’t get to lower your expectations because other teams are improving more than you are. If other teams are going out and getting better coaches and players than LSU, and in turn improving more than LSU, that’s not a good excuse to why expectations should be lowered. Results matter.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 2:53 pm to bdavids09
Whatever it takes to make 12 team playoff. Don’t care if it is 9 or 10 wins. No longer need to win 11 or 12 every year.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 2:58 pm to Basura Blanco
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we can be consistently top 6 without having to be Top 3 and not have those problems. What we cant be is 10-15th with 6 conference teams ahead of us.
100% agree
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:00 pm to Paul Allen
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The schedule couldn’t be any easier next season.
Que?
Alabama, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Florida and A&M. It could be a lot easier than that
Playing two P5 OOC games alone is not going to be easy
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:04 pm to LNCHBOX
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Wait, so now 2012 had a harder schedule than 2011?
The OOC schedule was obviously more difficult in 2011, but I think a good argument could be made our SEC schedule was more difficult in 2012. Overall, I think we're splitting hairs. Both schedules were hard.
In 2012, our SEC schedule included
@ #5 Texas A&M
#1 Alabama
#7 South Carolina
@ #9 Florida
4 top 10 teams just in SEC play is pretty damn beefy
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:07 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
11-1 12-0 and compete for a natty...not just make playoffs... COMPETE of the season is a complete and utter failure... He has shown ineptness to recruit defensive players and his offensive guys may be the doings of Denbrock. I think Denbrock and Daniels should get all the credit for the offense this season just as everyone gives the success of Burrow and the 2019 offense to Brady
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:08 pm to lsufball19
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The OOC schedule was obviously more difficult in 2011, but I think a good argument could be made our SEC schedule was more difficult in 2012. Overall, I think we're splitting hairs. Both schedules were hard.
Sure, our schedule is always objectively hard at least in this century. I don't think there's any argument to be made for 2012 being a harder schedule than 2011 though. 2011 could easily be argued as one of the strongest schedules in the history of the sport
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4 top 10 teams just in SEC play is pretty damn beefy
In the final regular season week of 2011, 1 2 and 3 were in the SEC West
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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In the final regular season week of 2011, 1 2 and 3 were in the SEC West
Right, but we only played two of those teams. The only other ranked SEC team we played was against #19 UGA in the SECCG. Oregon finished #4 and WVU finished #17.
So, in total, we played 4 top 10 teams in 2012, 4 in 2011 (two of those being Alabama). We played 4 total games against ranked teams in 2012 and 5 in 2011.
Like I said, we're splitting hairs with what year had the more difficult schedule. They were both very difficult
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:16 pm to lsufball19
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We played 4 total games against ranked teams in 2012 and 5 in 2011.
Little disingenuous to compare just ranked teams to BCS bowl winners. I don't think you'll see a team with that type of quality wins ever again.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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Little disingenuous to compare just ranked teams to BCS bowl winners
why is it disingenuous? Because the argument isn't so cut and dried as you want it to be (or assumed it was)?
I said you were splitting hairs, and now you're arguing the minutia, so you're kind of making my point
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I don't think you'll see a team with that type of quality wins ever again.
2019 LSU had more quality wins
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:20 pm to lsufball19
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why is it disingenuous? Because the argument isn't so cut and dried as you want it to be (or assumed it was)?
Because Oregon WVU, Bama etc are better wins than those SEC team you listed. It's pretty self explanatory.
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2019 LSU had more quality wins
Really? show me the wins over Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl and national championship winners.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:23 pm to bdavids09
23-0. Nothing less.
And our fake fans will still complain.
And our fake fans will still complain.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:23 pm to bdavids09
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In your opinion what is that? Would 9-3 cut it since it’s a tough schedule or should lsu be 10-2 or better since it’s year theee under Kelly
The term "successful year" is meaningless.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:25 pm to LNCHBOX
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Because Oregon WVU, Bama etc are better wins than those SEC team you listed. It's pretty self explanatory.
How is it self explanatory? Because you think they are?
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Really?
Yes really. They beat 5 teams who finished the season ranked in the top 10 and 2 more who finished the season ranked. That has never been done before or since
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show me the wins over Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl and national championship winners.
was waiting for this remark
If all bowls and conference champions were created equally, this may actually have the merit you want it to
But if you want to play that game. 2019 LSU beat the Orange Bowl and Fiesta Bowl winner. They couldn't beat the national champions because they couldn't play themselves.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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BK gets a pass for having that defense?
Great example. This guy defines a successful year based on whether the head coach can be blamed for shortcomings of the team relative to some generic standard of excellence.
The guy he's arguing with defines a successful year based on a reasonable evaluation of wins vs. what the team, with its inherent strengths and weaknesses, looks like.
It's two very different things.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:27 pm to Paul Allen
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The schedule couldn’t be any easier next season.
A SEC schedule is never easy.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:27 pm to lsufball19
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How is it self explanatory? Because you think they are?
Major bowl winners are better than mere top 25. It's a pretty simple concept.
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If all bowls and conference champions were created equally, this may actually have the merit you want it to
SO I shall just take your word that 2011 was not impressive even though it is widely regarded as one of the strongest schedules in the sport. frick off
This thread is likely the first and only time someone has tried to make the argument that 2012 was harder than 2011.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:30 pm to bdavids09
9 and 3 would be outstanding with what we have returning and replacing. Our qb made us this year and deserves the heisman for carrying this team. Next year could be really rough. Now someone please remind me of this around 8/10/24 when reports leak about how elite our offense/defense looks now and how we are playoff contenders. Let myself fall into that hype trap every year.
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