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re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?

Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Saban never won anything at lsu with 100% his recruits.


And Miles did??????


Yor hatred for Saban and LOVE for Miles has NO LEVEL...

You are pathetic...............
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59054 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Saban never won anything at lsu with 100% his recruits.


Who on the 2003 team wasn't recruited by Saban? It would have to be a 5th year Sr and clearly all the best players on that team were Saban signees.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:39 pm to
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I don't have a problem with anyone saying Dietzel,Saban, or miles is the GOAT. all 3 have valid arguments.


Have you read ANY of your own posts??????



Face IT you have been exposed...............
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:05 pm to
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Average? Average


We take out 2003 and, nationally, average would be about right. Almost four defeats a year and a winning average of 70%. What would you call it?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59054 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:16 pm to
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What would you call it?


Lacking perspective and context or willful ignorance in an attempt to give less than the credit that is due.

This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:43 pm to
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2004, he lost 3, but 1 was the blow game on a hail Mary


In 2004 he also won a game he should have lost to Oregon State after their kicker missed 3 extra points. So all in all, 3 losses should/could have been 4 losses.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:48 pm to
OK Saban did NOTHING here.................


YOU are A stupid dumbass................
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:55 pm to
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Lacking perspective and context or willful ignorance in an attempt to give less than the credit that is due.


Come on. The poster said something like, take out 2003 and Saban's record at LSU was average. Now, I would say that nationally his record without 2003 would be a little above average, but calling it average isn't some terrible comment record wise.

The LSU winning percentage from 1989-1994 was 38%. The LSU winning percentage from 1995-1997 was 74%. Saban didn't change the tide of LSU football all by himself. Saban was a very good football coach at LSU with a great year.

The goat at LSU is Les. More top ten finishes, more ten win seasons, more consecutive ten win seasons, more national championship games, and the highest winning percentage.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7864 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:59 pm to
Don't run options to the short side of the field.

Know how to spell and manage a clock.

Attempt to make an in game adjustment.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47609 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:01 pm to
Saban had a better win pct vs SEC teams vs top 10 teams vs top 5 teams vs top 3 teams Miles had a better win pct vs teams ranked 15 to 25 and vs non ranked teams. He also had his win pct boosted from playing an extra rent a win game per season and the SEC west being the weakest it's ever been his first 5 seasons and the fact that he inherited a team with 30+ pro ball players 1 year removed from a national title. Saban inherited a 3 win team with 11 pro players yet still won SEC and National titles at more than twice the rate. Anyone who can't see the difference there doesn't want too and there's literally nobody outside of delusional LSU fans butt hurt because Saban left who would put Les Miles within 50 spots near Nick Saban in any coaching convo.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20305 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:01 pm to
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In 2004 he also won a game he should have lost to Oregon State after their kicker missed 3 extra points.
If I remember that correctly, wasn't the kicker an All American candidate coming into the year? That was a flukish game all the way across the board, Saban genius or no.

Richt and Georgia also skullfricked that 2004 team.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15871 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:10 pm to
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If I remember that correctly, wasn't the kicker an All American candidate coming into the year?

Nah, Serna was a walk-on playing in his first college game. He did end up winning the Groza award and being an All-American the following year though.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47609 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:14 pm to
It was a monsoon the field was literally a mud pit that's why he couldn't kick. It was no fluke it was bad weather.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:17 pm to
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Have you read ANY of your own posts?????? 




GOAT status is subjective.

do I need to explain what the word subjective mean again? I know you just found out what the word means.

this ignorant person im responding to said that it's not subjective which season was each posters favorite season.

quote:

Face IT you have been exposed.............


you're the laughing stock of this site. you don't know shite about sports and everyone knows it
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:18 pm to
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It was a monsoon the field was literally a mud pit that's why he couldn't kick. It was no fluke it was bad weath

bruh missing 3 PAT is a fluke.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:19 pm to
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And Miles did?????? 


yes.

did you miss our 2011 sec title?

quote:

Yor hatred for Saban and LOVE for Miles has NO LEVEL... 

You are pathetic...............


how about you learn enough about sports to actually contribute anything to the thread instead running that dick sucker of yours.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47609 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:20 pm to
Ever kicked in a monsoon on nothing but mudd? J-Russ won that game.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Leonardknowsfootball
Dallas, Texas
Member since Aug 2017
33 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:20 pm to
400 wins
5 titles
10 sec championships
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:21 pm to
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Dude, seriously, if you can't fricking see that the PLAYERS WON those 13 games and the COACH LOST that last one, then "your an idiot"!!!!


we have the most football ignorant fan base in the history of sports.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:23 pm to
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Ever kicked in a monsoon on nothing but mudd? J-Russ won that game.


here is the YouTube highlights it wasnt a monsoon all game
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