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What percentage of the blame do you put on the players ability vs the coaching staff?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:33 am
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:33 am
Our defense wasn't bad this year. They weren't even terrible.
It was a whole different level of ineptness. Never really seen anything like it.
We heard all year that these guys are young, inexperienced etc. etc.
Sure, that's true. But I don't see how ability can make up for even 50% of how bad that squad was this year.
Just curious to hear your take on what you thought the reason was beyond House being trash.
It was a whole different level of ineptness. Never really seen anything like it.
We heard all year that these guys are young, inexperienced etc. etc.
Sure, that's true. But I don't see how ability can make up for even 50% of how bad that squad was this year.
Just curious to hear your take on what you thought the reason was beyond House being trash.
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:37 am to OJsLifeCoach
80% on coaches/20% players.
There are PLENTY of teams with equal or worse talent that had much better defenses.
Auburn, for example, has a pretty shitty roster after Harsin and was light years better than we were this season. I think they have comparable talent to us. IF we have their defense, we might have 1 loss.
There are PLENTY of teams with equal or worse talent that had much better defenses.
Auburn, for example, has a pretty shitty roster after Harsin and was light years better than we were this season. I think they have comparable talent to us. IF we have their defense, we might have 1 loss.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:38 am to OJsLifeCoach
Our players aren't explosive off the line, we can not run people down, and struggle with tackling.
Sage for example seems like he's a step slow to be elite. He's long, but isn't DBU material from what I see on TV
Perkins is elite but was not mentioned all game. How is that possible?
Its both players and coaching
Sage for example seems like he's a step slow to be elite. He's long, but isn't DBU material from what I see on TV
Perkins is elite but was not mentioned all game. How is that possible?
Its both players and coaching
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:40 am to ApexTiger
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Our players aren't explosive off the line, we can not run people down, and struggle with tackling.
Sage for example seems like he's a step slow to be elite. He's long, but isn't DBU material from what I see on TV
Perkins is elite but was not mentioned all game. How is that possible?
Its both players and coaching
Well coached players/teams have decisiveness which makes them seem much faster. If we ran a bunch of 40s vs other teams, I don't think we'd be much slower, we are just lost out there and it takes away speed.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:40 am to OJsLifeCoach
2020 was statistically worse (although all sec opponents).
I’m in the very small minority but I don’t think it was that much of a scheme issue (which is where the DC/House really does their damage). He did coach LBers so you can fault him for that, although they had moments (Weeks).
I think the main issues are:
-awful (or nonexistent, DL) position coaching which leads to all kinds of problems in technique & fundamentals
-lack of depth & high end talent.
I’d put 40% on both of those and 20% on House. Flame away I don’t care. He didn’t forget how to coach defense and did well in 22 and @ Kentucky in the same role.
I’m in the very small minority but I don’t think it was that much of a scheme issue (which is where the DC/House really does their damage). He did coach LBers so you can fault him for that, although they had moments (Weeks).
I think the main issues are:
-awful (or nonexistent, DL) position coaching which leads to all kinds of problems in technique & fundamentals
-lack of depth & high end talent.
I’d put 40% on both of those and 20% on House. Flame away I don’t care. He didn’t forget how to coach defense and did well in 22 and @ Kentucky in the same role.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:42 am to mwade91383
We had glaring schematic issues in several games that didn't get corrected, most notably Alabama. The entire world saw what we needed to do and BK admitted it after.
How the frick does that happen?
How the frick does that happen?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:45 am to CatfishJohn
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80% on coaches/20% players.
There are PLENTY of teams with equal or worse talent that had much better defenses.
This is how I feel. When Tulane can hold the same opponent to less points/yards, I don't see how you can say we just straight up don't have the guys to do the same.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:47 am to OJsLifeCoach
It wasn't that the talent was young, because they never really got better. Also, players like Major Burns, he's as good as he's going to get. Now he can play a little bit better with better pieces around him, but if the defense doesn't get better, he's not going to get any better. All that to say, it's not all coaching, but at the same time, the defense had talent. I think that at times, House was stubborn and didn't let the defense play to what strengths they had.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:47 am to OJsLifeCoach
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This is how I feel. When Tulane can hold the same opponent to less points/yards, I don't see how you can say we just straight up don't have the guys to do the same.
We absolutely have better players than tulane. The scheming sucks. Do the coaches watch film?
We were down some corners, but teams all over play freshmen 2* and 3* players and they dont have records set against them every game.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:49 am to OJsLifeCoach
All the D coaches are lucky BK didn’t fire everyone of them.
They should all be gone
They should all be gone
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:51 am to OJsLifeCoach
We suffered from a lack of talent, inexperience, poor fundamentals, and poof strategy. Poor talent evaluation, sickness and injuries also hurt.
There were a lot of issues and the blame should be spread around to every facet of the team.
There were a lot of issues and the blame should be spread around to every facet of the team.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:54 am to CatfishJohn
quote:It was unforgivable. How can a coach be so stupid?
The entire world saw what we needed to do and BK admitted it after.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:55 am to OJsLifeCoach
I have never seen an LSU defense that is constantly out of position, receivers running with no one even close to them, linebackers who are this slow, doesn't dare use press coverage most of the time as this defense. Some of it is talent and depth but whose fault is that? This defense needs an overhauled staff, a new culture, and a new voice coaching them.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:57 am to CatfishJohn
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80% on coaches/20% players.
There are PLENTY of teams with equal or worse talent that had much better defenses.
Exactly.
The personnel is why this defense wasn't great...or even really good. The abysmal coaching is why they weren't at least average. Which is ALL this team needed them to be with how good the offense was. This wasn't the most talented LSU defense ever. Far from it. But it had equal, if not more, talent than mid-tier major conf. defenses.
This wasn't a "bad" season by any means. But it will ALWAYS go down as a wasted opportunity.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:06 am to OJsLifeCoach
80/20 players to coaching.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:08 am to OJsLifeCoach
90% coaches
The examples of dynamic coaches who turn around a program on a dime are legion
Same for coaches who quickly destroy programs.
The examples of dynamic coaches who turn around a program on a dime are legion
Same for coaches who quickly destroy programs.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:11 am to ApexTiger
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Our players aren't explosive off the line
How do they make NFL rosters, yet they can't compete in the SEC.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:14 am to Big4SALTbro
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All the D coaches are lucky BK didn’t fire everyone of them.
If Kelly's name was Orgeron, without such a contract, he would have already been fired.
Slick talking Carpertbagger.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:19 am to CatfishJohn
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Well coached players/teams have decisiveness which makes them seem much faster. If we ran a bunch of 40s vs other teams, I don't think we'd be much slower, we are just lost out there and it takes away speed.
We can not run people down on the edges...
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