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re: What makes Curiel a better prospect than Brown?

Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:40 am to
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:40 am to
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but his defense has been disappointing over the course of the season. He does not look natural and routinely makes mistakes due to concentration lapses.


Bro he’s lost one ball in the sun n made a poor throw to third. He’s been exceptional in the field outside of that. His struggles against lefty’s and showing he can be an everyday day player is what he needed to show scouts. He’s the best athlete on the team.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 10:43 am
Posted by Ballhog52
Down South
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:43 am to
Curiel didn’t hit LHP good last year either. Look at his splits.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:50 am to
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Curiel didn’t hit LHP good last year either. Look at his splits.


Where are the splits? They don't have them on LSUs site.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73324 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:52 am to
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Where are the splits? They don't have them on LSUs site.

Chat GPT says he hit .224 against LHP and .429 against RHP
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:54 am to
Brown is in draft year
Curiel will have a lot of leverage even if he goes later
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:54 am to
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Chat GPT says he hit .224 against LHP and .429 against RHP


That doesn't sound off or anything. I just can't find where they would be pulling that from.

D1, BR, Fangraphs, and LSU's site don't list handed splits.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73324 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:56 am to
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That doesn't sound off or anything. I just can't find where they would be pulling that from.

Chat GPT says it was pulled from game notes somewhere in a postseason game. I have no idea where to find player splits for college baseball either. The SEC website used to have them for teams, but when they redid their website to make it worse, all those splits are no longer there.

I wish there was somewhere to find them. They're clearly tracked because the announcers for the games have them for everyone in real time.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 10:57 am
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:58 am to
I remember seeing the splits somewhere last year and it was a significant gap between his hitting against LHP/RHP
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78298 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:01 am to
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he SEC website used to have them for teams, but when they redid their website to make it worse, all those splits are no longer there.



There was some sort of change in the stats industry this offseason where a company went bankrupt or something. It has affected a lot of schools.

One thing that's been annoying the shite out of me is that so many JUCOs have switched to the same shitty provider (PrestoSports) and their team stat sites have default settings you can't change that only list qualifying players on their stat pages. So you might only get stats for 2 pitchers unless you look at each player's page individually.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:02 am to
Found this on the NCAA website.

.404 RHP, .247 LHP

Interestingly, looking at this year it's the exact reverse.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 11:05 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78298 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:05 am to
Access Denied

I went back to the main ncaa stats page, and anything I click that drills down even to a sport level gets Access Denied.

Oh well.
Posted by Ballhog52
Down South
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:06 am to
Brown really has 1 error on the season. That’s the overthrow to 3rd base he made during the McNeese game. The other error he’s charged with is when a flare hit over 1st base that’s spinning to the wall, brown running full speed to get to it, slips while grabbing it. They charged him the error because the guy scored from 2nd which he would have scored anyway. Both Curiel and Brown are very good players, it just so happens that Brown took a big step forward this year. He doesn’t look clumsy in the outfield, because of his speed and breaks on the ball, he actually makes difficult plays look easy. I overheard several scouts talking in the fall saying Brown won’t be on the board after 40th pick.I'm just excited we have 3 very good athletes playing the outfield at LSU.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:06 am to
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Bro he’s lost one ball in the sun n made a poor throw to third.


He’s misplayed two balls near the corner, too. One he kicked, the other got by him (or he fumbled it, I forget) and runners were able to take extra bases. He’s a great athlete but has continued to have lapses in concentration in the field.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
6182 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:06 am to
Both good players but curiel probably has a better average against left handers. On the other hand, Curiel lacks strength that Brown has. Tbh a 200/210lb Curiel would be lethal because his arm strength would mature and his long ball would be added for sure. Has alot of growth incoming. Brown will need work in the minors against lefties But has a positive attitude, loves the game and can ball. Clutch guys dont come around to often.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 4:56 pm
Posted by TigerCub
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:07 am to
That's weird

I just googled NCAA stats archive and it brought be to this page. They have all kinds of splits you can look at.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79420 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:10 am to
I would say coming into the year Brown had significant issues hitting lefties. Which is why he was basically a platoon player last year.

But he’s obviously turned a gear this year.

.400+ hitters with 20 home runs tens to get drafted early.

Curiel has great bat the ball skills, great vision but the power hasn’t materialized. So that’s always going to be the ? mark in him.

Some guys just don’t physically develop until later. You can’t assume every guy in a weight room a couple will look like Dylan Crews and if they don’t they never will. Guys develop at different rates. Some people won’t develop the strength they need till they’re in their mid 20s.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22597 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:10 am to
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There was some sort of change in the stats industry this offseason where a company went bankrupt or something. It has affected a lot of schools.


The NCAA partnered with a company called Genius Sports to develop stat programs for all their sports. They've had football and basketball in use for several years now and were supposed to have all the other sports done by now. Because of that the NCAA didn't renew the contract with the company they had used for years and that expired after last season. So everyone is having to do all kinds of workarounds to use the old stats program this year until the new one is ready for next season.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
9617 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:20 am to
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Bro he’s lost one ball in the sun n made a poor throw to third. He’s been exceptional in the field outside of that.

I love Brown, but he’s also booted a ball in the outfield as well leading to an additional run in that horrible 3rd inning against Northeastern.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73324 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:29 am to
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Some people won’t develop the strength they need till they’re in their mid 20s.

honestly, most don't. I'll just throw out a crazy example. Ken Grffey Jr. He was a line drive hitter with elite tools and bat to ball skills as a teenager and early 20s player.

As a 18 year old, he hit 13 HRs in 324 PAs in the minors
as a 19 year old rookie, he hit 16 HRs 506 PAs
AT 20, he hit 22
At 21, he hit 22 again
At 22, he hit 27

Then massive Jump. He hit 45, 40, 17 (missed most of the season), 49, 56, 56, etc

Griffey made his big jump in reaching his power potential at 22-23 years old.

Curiel obviously will never have that type of ceiling, but with his height, frame, and bat to ball skills, there's no reason to say his ceiling can't be a 20-25 HR guy eventually. Look at his exit velos. Curiel hits the ball hard a lot. Against Sac St, he hit a ball 107.6 and 101. Against Dartmouth, he hit three balls 100.5, 102.7, and 103. He hit a ball 107.5 against UCF. He hit a ball 107.7 against Indiana. He hit balls 103.8 and 105.1 against Milwaukee. The power potential is def there. his swing path also doesn't lend itself to hitting as many home runs as he probably could. That's something that could also change at the next level just like it did for Bregman.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 11:34 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290822 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:31 am to
Curiel is strong enough to hit for more power, but his swing & approach doesn’t allow it.
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