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re: What last night proved about Max and TJ

Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:23 am to
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:23 am to
I like both and hope they both stick around for the competition.

One of the bright spots for Max last night was that he made some great throws with a defender in his face, knowing he was about to get pummeled.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:30 am to
We have talent at the position and a system that allows them to showcase that talent. Brennan is and should be the starter. I hope he’s continued to work. He’s got next year to ball out and then head to the Show. And he has the talent, smarts, and arm to do that. Glad he has young talent behind him. Nuss should add to that.
Posted by ccomeaux
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:32 am to
Max is able to process the full field effectively and therefore has a more consistent positive result
He’s also mobile
He throws, by a mile, a more catchable ball
His command under pressure is far superior
Because he sees the whole field. He produces less turnovers
Max is the better QB and it’s it’s really not close
That kid is a baller ! You don’t stroll out there in the Swamp and take the win from the Heisman leader late in the season if you’re not an alpha.
I’m not crowning him king but I’m stating: Max Johnson is our best QB available and probably has the highest ceiling of any on the team
That kid is going to be 230+ next season
Big boy with touch and mobility
Max Johnson ! the name says it all
Posted by LeMarteau
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:33 am to
I didn’t get to watch - did Max play entire game?
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:35 am to
Wire to wire
Posted by bobdylan
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Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:36 am to
And this season shows that most seasons you will need at least two QBs.

If you stick around I think history shows your time will come where you’ll get meaningful opportunities.

Hope they both stay.
Posted by LSU37
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:38 am to
Uscjr was at tiger stadium
Posted by Ms Anthrope
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:38 am to
We're lucky to have them both and will be able to build on their talents. I agree with you on Max -- he talks ball. I see some Joe Burrow in this kid.
Posted by lsugrad35
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:38 am to
They’re both great talents. What it comes down to for me is that Johnson is a “gamer”. I hate the use the cliche but I’m not sure how else to put it. He’s the type that puts in so much effort into every play. It’s not necessarily a big arm or a crazy speed but he can will a team to a win. That plays well in the college game.
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:39 am to
I like both Max and TJ’s toughness. Both dudes have taken some big hits and gotten up and continued to fight. Max had two hits last night that I know he’s feeling this morning. That one on the sideline where he tried to stretch out for the first down was brutal.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:47 am to
I think both have been good and inconsistent. They've also kind of been what we (I) thought they would be. Finley has the size and throwing ability OC's dream of. He can just effortlessly zip passes in the small windows. No matter what the defense does, you can't stop a perfect throw. He opens up all areas of the field. The negative, his mechanics are inconsistent and he has to develop the cerebral/decision making part of the game.

That's where Johnson has an edge. Athletically, nothing really stands out for Johnson. He can run better than Finely, but I wouldn't say that is a "strength." He's not a running threat...even on the level of Burrow (who no one would say was a "running" QB ala guys like Vick, Hurts, etc). He has an average to below average arm (right now). What separates him though is his understanding of the game. He was seeing the blitzes, coverages, and though he wasn't perfect, really had control of the game. It's clear he's had good training from his ex-NFL QB father.

Going into the offseason the question will be can each strengthen their weaknesses? Finley has to work on his mechanics and in the film room. If so, he could be a really good QB. Johnson has to get bigger, stronger, faster. A full off-season in the workout program will help.

This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 9:48 am
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:57 am to
Brennan is the QB
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:13 am to
Yeah QB is finally not a problem for the foreseeable future.

Fact of the matter is that I never expected Finley to even factor into the starting QB race because he had Johnson in his class, Brennan was ahead of him, and Nuss and Howard were in the next 2 classes. He impressed me by even winning the starting job to begin with. Now I will say this, Bama and TAMU both have way better defenses than UF, so I wouldn't say Johnson is a runaway favorite after Brennan anymore. It's going to be a four way dogfight in 2022 to replace Brennan (who I think returns and starts next year).
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:21 am to
Max had a quality win and deserves the start again next week
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22572 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:24 am to
Miles Brennan has 2 years of eligibility right?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:29 am to
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I also like Max's toughness - gets clobbered sometimes and bounces up.

So does TJ. Finley did great as long as we had a running game to open the passing attack. Same with Max. There are very few things either freshman can do, and coaches figure that out. Max has film now. Ole Miss is going to look at that film and game plan to make Max beat them doing things that are uncomfortable. If Max does it when the running game isn’t there, then I’ll feel that he’s the likely winner.

Ultimately, the one who maves forward and has the better LSU career is the one who advances the most this offseason and next August.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:30 am to
Some of that can be attributed to Max getting rid of the ball and stepping around pocket.
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:31 am to
Exactly!
Posted by Tmcnair96
Member since Dec 2016
403 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:43 am to
Last night proved that Max is the more polished QB than TJ. TJ is still a young QB that is just playing on natural ability. You can see with Max that he grew up with a dad that was NFL QB. He looks more refined and has good feet in the pocket, looks like he sees the field different. I like all 3 qb's, I just hope we can get a next level scheme to maximize the talent of these quarterbacks.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Member since Jun 2006
33089 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Yeah QB is finally not a problem for the foreseeable future.

One is leaving after the season.
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