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What I’ve not heard addressed….

Posted on 9/9/26 at 5:36 am
Posted by LSU4Life2021
In the dump known as Mississippi
Member since Dec 2021
1464 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 5:36 am
If the SEC has the power to govern itself and can impose stiff penalties on a school for whatever infractions then doesn’t the school have the right as a member to hear the charges and see the evidence being considered (especially for such a drastic move as being tossed around)?
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
13586 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 5:42 am to
Yes, you would think due process would be allowed here, but don't get your hopes up.
Posted by LSU4Life2021
In the dump known as Mississippi
Member since Dec 2021
1464 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:03 am to
“We don’t like you anymore, we don’t like what you’ve become, what you can become…”. Surely you have the right to face the charges against you and defend them. If not, then maybe leaving the SEC is best for us
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
8304 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:22 am to
quote:

If the SEC has the power to govern itself and can impose stiff penalties on a school for whatever infractions then doesn’t the school have the right as a member to hear the charges and see the evidence being considered (especially for such a drastic move as being tossed around)?
No.

As the Amended Complaint notes, Section 3.1.5 of the SEC Constitution and Bylaws grants the SEC's presidents and chancellors "plenary power and authority with respect to all affairs of the Conference of any type or nature whatsoever." The bylaws explicitly state that the leaders may take these actions "in their sole discretion." There is no requirement for a separate, trial-like hearing before a vote.

Thus, the procedure to issue penalties requires only two steps: (1) the SEC Commissioner issues a notice to call a Special Meeting of the conference leaders (Special Meeting is set for September 10); (2) at least two-thirds of the conference leaders (11 out of 16) must vote in favor of the penalties.

While LSU cannot legally block or delay the vote to demand an internal "fair trial," LSU leadership could use the scheduled meeting itself to argue their case informally to the other school leaders before those leaders cast their votes. However, I'd expect that the other 15 leaders would already have their marching orders or their minds made up before appearing at the meeting. I can't imagine an informal argument by LSU would make much difference.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
44103 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:23 am to
Greg should go after the culprit - the NCAA. How would that hold up?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
39201 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:30 am to
Private organizations are not necessarily governed in accordance with the US Code. The SEC, Big 10, ACC, Big 12 .....Ivy League are entitled under the First Amendment to govern themselves as they see fit. The SEC is not a court of law and as such whatever procedures they have, the membership agreed to when they joined and at subsequent meetings where I would suppose either new rules are decided and old rules are refined.
Posted by Desert Storm 1991
Member since Aug 2014
444 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:34 am to
These other schools know lsu is about to go on a five to ten year run dominated them and they want no part of it. They want us out
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
2875 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:41 am to
What I’ve not heard said, is that the Big Ten has won the natty the last three years, here’s a chance for the SEC to get one and the SEC will potentially vote them out. How laughable is that?
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
5092 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:48 am to
quote:

What I’ve not heard said, is that the Big Ten has won the natty the last three years, here’s a chance for the SEC to get one and the SEC will potentially vote them out. How laughable is that?


The problem here is it is the "wrong" SEC program. If it was Bama or UGA, it would be OK.

I truly hope LSU leaves this conference. The blatant bias is beyond obvious now.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
142070 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:50 am to
quote:

doesn’t the school have the right
Not explicitly.

Unbelievably, there is no substantive "for cause" standard, no list of prohibited conduct, and no due-process mechanism specified regarding expulsion. Membership "may be terminated involuntarily at a meeting of the Chief Executive Officers." It only requires a two-thirds vote of all CEOs, and for the motion to specify an effective date.
Posted by ifyoubuildit
Member since Jan 2018
413 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:05 am to
All SEC states are politically R ( conservative) while most academic/university leadership is D (liberal). Gov Landry and our federal state delegation need to be on the phone to all the other SEC governors to advise them to reign in their rogue presidents/chancellors and Sankey. If not, LSU will absorb its expulsion, without grounds, and sue the SEC to oblivion. We will be better off in a different place.

If this politics works and LSU remains in the SEC, LSU and Louisiana need to lead an effort to change the bylaws so that cause becomes a part of a legitimate due process, to prevent another prick like Sankey from going rogue in the future.

Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
4111 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:33 am to
quote:

"may be terminated involuntarily at a meeting of the Chief Executive Officers."


So not all 16 team reps, just the SEC officers?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
McKinney, TX
Member since Mar 2014
15454 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:47 am to
quote:

As the Amended Complaint notes, Section 3.1.5 of the SEC Constitution and Bylaws grants the SEC's presidents and chancellors "plenary power and authority with respect to all affairs of the Conference of any type or nature whatsoever." The bylaws explicitly state that the leaders may take these actions "in their sole discretion." There is no requirement for a separate, trial-like hearing before a vote.

Thus, the procedure to issue penalties requires only two steps: (1) the SEC Commissioner issues a notice to call a Special Meeting of the conference leaders (Special Meeting is set for September 10); (2) at least two-thirds of the conference leaders (11 out of 16) must vote in favor of the penalties.

While LSU cannot legally block or delay the vote to demand an internal "fair trial," LSU leadership could use the scheduled meeting itself to argue their case informally to the other school leaders before those leaders cast their votes. However, I'd expect that the other 15 leaders would already have their marching orders or their minds made up before appearing at the meeting. I can't imagine an informal argument by LSU would make much difference.


This whole thing is stupid. The Tennessee Chancellor and every other leader of the member conferences already have their mind made up.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
8304 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:11 am to
quote:

quote:

"may be terminated involuntarily at a meeting of the Chief Executive Officers."
So not all 16 team reps, just the SEC officers?
The "meeting of the Chief Executive Officers" is the meeting of the CEOs or leaders (presidents, chancellors, etc.) of the 16 schools.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
76616 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:12 am to
SFP will be here soon to educate us plebs
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
4111 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:49 am to
quote:

The "meeting of the Chief Executive Officers" is the meeting of the CEOs or leaders (presidents, chancellors, etc.) of the 16 schools.



That's what i was hoping. So, 15 of them (14 in this case) would have AG's and Governors giving input right?
Posted by tigger42day
Just south of Mizery
Member since Oct 2004
7517 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:30 am to
Their minds may change after they have discussions of the potential consequences of expulsion.

You know, if expelled that LSU will be suing the SEC and its voting members for selective enforcement of the rules, of antitrust violations and damage to income and reputation.

I’m not a lawyer, but the things I’m reading include 3x damages just for antitrust alone. Since we’ve got $720 million left on our SEC Disney contract that’s a damage amount of over $2.1 billion, just from the SEC. Not sure how they’d carve out our pound of flesh from member institutions.

The Judge in that case might just say “Disney, just sign all those TV revenue checks directly over to Louisiana State University.


Posted by IM_4_LSU
McKinney, TX
Member since Mar 2014
15454 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:37 am to
We will see how it all plays out.
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4487 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:38 am to
This is what’s so dangerous from a precedent setting standpoint. It proves that if the powers that be have an axe to grind, they will exercise those powers at will and do whatever they want. Even showing complete inconsistency in its application of its own rules and a member is powerless to stop it. Member universities in the conference should be extremely wary of what’s going on here but they can’t see beyond their hatred if all things lsu
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
8304 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:09 am to
quote:

quote:

The "meeting of the Chief Executive Officers" is the meeting of the CEOs or leaders (presidents, chancellors, etc.) of the 16 schools.
That's what i was hoping. So, 15 of them (14 in this case) would have AG's and Governors giving input right?
The 15 CEOs attending the meeting will be the person in charge of the school, whether it's the president of the school or the chancellor of the school. In this case, it will be at least 15 CEOs attending the meeting. I'm not sure if LSU President Wade Rousse will attend, but I certainly hope he does.
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