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re: What is your ideal carry split percentage between Fournette and Guice?

Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28810 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:19 pm to
based on 40 rushes

Fournette 20
Guice 10
Harris/Rest 10

based on 45 rushes
Fournette 22
Guice 12
Harris/Rest 11
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37585 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure LF is that much better.







Cute..
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:25 pm to
60 / 25 / 15
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29821 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:32 pm to
2015 we avg'd 42 rushes a game. With that said...

55% fournette - 23 carries
20% guice - 8 carries
15% harris - 6 carries
10% Williams - 4 carries

I would be perfectly happy to switch Guice and harris as well. harris needs to carry the ball more. He avg'd 3.4 a carry. Which is probably more like 5-6 ypc without sacks.

he COULD be a dynamic threat.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14255 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:34 pm to
35% Fournette
15% Guice

50% Harris/Etling throwing the ball.

I want an Offense that's 50/50 Run-Pass. (An LSU Alum can dream, can't he?) Probably wont see this until Brennan-Dinkelmann are in here and firmly entrenched as the 1-2 QB's.

BTW, anybody on here at practice? What's the breakdown of First Team-Second Team reps between BH and DE?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29821 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

35% Fournette
15% Guice

50% Harris/Etling throwing the ball.


you don't know how percentages work, do you?

quote:

(An LSU Alum can dream, can't he?)


And why throw this in?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29821 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:39 pm to
for comparison sake, last year...

505 rushs total

Fournette - 300 = 59%
Guice - 51 = 10%
Williams - 60 = 12%
Harris - 67 = 13%
Others - 6%
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
14105 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:45 pm to
LSU averaged right around 40 rushes a game in 2015. I think this season will be similar.
LF - 60% 22-25
DG -30% 12-15
Rest -10% 3-6



Why would you not feed this guy as much as he wants.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8857 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

Guice is nasty. I'm not sure LF is that much better.
I happen to agree with this, definitely has more wiggle. I'd like to see Guice in the slot in motion, almost every play, instead of a no carrying the ball fullback. Give mthrfkers something to think about.
Posted by Lucky5150
B.S.L.
Member since Jun 2016
1557 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 12:31 am to
Guice is as good as Chubb or any other RB in the conference but LF7 is a special back. I watched Hershel and Bo. Im not saying he's better than those 2, but he's closer than any I've seen. If he improves as much from his soph to junior year, as he did from freshmen to soph, there won't be a RB in college close to him



Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
5198 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 3:56 am to
With a more dynamic offense and a few more passes the clock will stop more on both incompletions and long passes and every first down to mark the chains, where that does not happen with 2-3 rushing plays that does not get you a first down. Let's add Williams and one other back for late carry's in blowouts or Brossette who may get some meaningful carries because he is a sleeper who could be very good next year with Guice both carrying the load.

Therefore, more plays for us where we usually have 58-65 would put us at 70-75 plays so let's take the lower average of 72 plays per game.

More passing routes, but effective ones and using the TE and a few times the RB in the flat or the great ole wheel route will give us 28 passes per game in 2016 (8 to TE/RB and 20 to WR) where I hope we complete 63%. Note Harris threw 23 passes per game last year for only 54% completed (only 12 pass completions per game- Very poor).

Note: Washington St. QB had 54 passes per game for almost 70% completion percentage, so I want our 28-30 passes to be at about 64% which is a 10% improvement. Remember a few games last year (Like Eastern Michigan) where Harris was just flinging it down the field (Bombs), and a lack of touch on short passes? He will be better at those and better routes will be called for a much better comp %.

Now for the OP question-

From my 72 plays - 28 passing = 44 rushing attempts

LF- 22 carries per game
Guice- 13 cpg
Williams/Brossette/others- 9 cpg

Last year LF had 25 cpg (300 total carries in 12 games). Everyone thinks he will carry a bit less of the load as well I do, a lot due to a great Guice and to keep him fresh. That is only 3 less rushes per game, and if we are more dynamic in the play calling he will get 2-3 receptions per game in screens and wheel routes, etc... Overall, with better play calling he will get huge runs and have about 1750 yards in the regular season with less carry's per game than 2015 and 2,100-2,200 total yards in 3 more games all the way to the Natty (If they go that far)

LF- 55%
Guice- 30%
Rest- 15%



Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
64769 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:48 am to
quote:

80/10/5/5


This.



Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 6:26 am to
quote:

I have a strong feeling Guice and Fournette will be in the same formation a lot


Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7225 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:33 am to
Whatever gets us the win
Posted by viningma
Robert, La
Member since Aug 2008
1008 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:12 am to
Depending on score but overall I would say 60-30 and 10 for others
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:21 am to
quote:

What is your ideal carry split percentage between Fournette and Guice?


I don't really care what the percentage is. It does not seem to be Miles' way of working, but it should depend solely on how effective each is in game conditions.
Posted by DownWithPsi
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
12 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:24 pm to
98/1/1
Jk. 60/30/10
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